ATL Tropical Depression GUSTAV - Model Runs

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#2181 Postby HouTXmetro » Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:09 pm

Is that updated?
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#2182 Postby dwg71 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:10 pm

yes metro that is latest, central la. still is consensous.
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#2183 Postby jwayne » Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:13 pm

am I seeing a high dive into gulf now? was that expected this early? will it possibly turn the storm earlier more westerly?
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav-Model Runs

#2184 Postby txag2005 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:14 pm

How are things looking for a Houston/Galveston hit? I'm feeling a little better today.
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#2185 Postby HouTXmetro » Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:15 pm

dwg71 wrote:yes metro that is latest, central la. still is consensous.


GFDL/GFS showing stall near Lufkin... Looks like Gustav will be flooding TX&LA with torrential rains well after landfall. This is not looking good folks.
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#2186 Postby txag2005 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:16 pm

HouTXmetro wrote:
dwg71 wrote:yes metro that is latest, central la. still is consensous.


GFDL/GFS showing stall near Lufkin... Looks like Gustav will be flooding TX&LA with torrential rains well after landfall. This is not looking folks.


Not good at all.
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#2187 Postby BigB0882 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:06 pm

Yeah, my parents want me to come up to their place in Crockett but I am afraid that I will get stuck there with all the rain they could possibly get. I would be flying up there on my dad's plane and he doesn't fly in anything but perfect weather. With my luck, somehow Baton Rouge would dodge the bullet and I would need to be back at work first thing Wed but would be stuck in Texas, lol!
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav-Model Runs

#2188 Postby Nimbus » Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:11 pm

From the pro met Jeff Lindner update:

A long review of the water vapor and current steering analysis shows a 400mb anticyclone over AL and MS shifting southward very slowly while the trough in the Gulf yesterday has fractured with a part heading NE through SC and the other part heading W through the northern Gulf. The western shift in the guidance may be these models picking up on this high and trying to figure out how to deal with that and Gustav. For now a general NW heading through the SE and into the central Gulf is still very likely…after 48 hours the track may begin to bend back toward the left some…how much will be determined by the high over AL and MS and more importantly by the deep layer ridging building down from the OH valley.


New high in the model data for future runs.
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav-Model Runs

#2189 Postby jwayne » Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:14 pm

Nimbus wrote:From the pro met Jeff Lindner update:

A long review of the water vapor and current steering analysis shows a 400mb anticyclone over AL and MS shifting southward very slowly while the trough in the Gulf yesterday has fractured with a part heading NE through SC and the other part heading W through the northern Gulf. The western shift in the guidance may be these models picking up on this high and trying to figure out how to deal with that and Gustav. For now a general NW heading through the SE and into the central Gulf is still very likely…after 48 hours the track may begin to bend back toward the left some…how much will be determined by the high over AL and MS and more importantly by the deep layer ridging building down from the OH valley.


New high in the model data for future runs.



This is what I was talking about. This storm may have a few tricks up it's sleeve.
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#2190 Postby dwg71 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:16 pm

hi appears to be heading more west than south, on wv. Gus looks to be headed for Cuba a bit quicker and a bit more east than forecast.

http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/ ... nhanced+12
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#2191 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:21 pm

This could potentially become a big inland flooding event after landfall. Gustav is forecasted to slow down over northeastern Texas, and as a front approaches from the north, the two features may combine to generate a tight pressure gradient (a.k.a. gusty winds) and a good deal of precipitation over parts of Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Arkansas by mid to late next week. This is certainly not good news considering these areas have already been experiencing flooding issues over the past couple of weeks.

We will need to watch this closely...
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav-Model Runs

#2192 Postby HouTXmetro » Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:27 pm

Nimbus wrote:From the pro met Jeff Lindner update:

A long review of the water vapor and current steering analysis shows a 400mb anticyclone over AL and MS shifting southward very slowly while the trough in the Gulf yesterday has fractured with a part heading NE through SC and the other part heading W through the northern Gulf. The western shift in the guidance may be these models picking up on this high and trying to figure out how to deal with that and Gustav. For now a general NW heading through the SE and into the central Gulf is still very likely…after 48 hours the track may begin to bend back toward the left some…how much will be determined by the high over AL and MS and more importantly by the deep layer ridging building down from the OH valley.


New high in the model data for future runs.


I see itm tbut it looks like it's weakening already. Still interesting development.
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav-Model Runs

#2193 Postby Nimbus » Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:32 pm

A large area over Texas is rotating clockwise so even though the high over MS/AL is weak there still may be some steering changes ahead.

A major hurricane can whip the upper air elements around in short order bridging highs etc. They even can build a high pressure dome over themselves sometimes.
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#2194 Postby jwayne » Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:34 pm

18z NAM looks to be TX/LA border. I know, it's only the NAM.
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav-Model Runs

#2195 Postby HouTXmetro » Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:35 pm

Nimbus wrote:A large area over Texas is rotating clockwise so even though the high over MS/AL is weak there still may be some steering changes ahead.

A major hurricane can whip the upper air elements around in short order bridging highs etc. They even build a dome of high pressure domes over themselves sometimes.


That area is building outwards also.
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#2196 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:16 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:This could potentially become a big inland flooding event after landfall. Gustav is forecasted to slow down over northeastern Texas, and as a front approaches from the north, the two features may combine to generate a tight pressure gradient (a.k.a. gusty winds) and a good deal of precipitation over parts of Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Arkansas by mid to late next week. This is certainly not good news considering these areas have already been experiencing flooding issues over the past couple of weeks.

We will need to watch this closely...


The 18z GFS shows what I am talking about quite clearly. You can see how the front meets up with Gustav to create quite an interesting event over TX/OK/LA/AK...

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_084l.gif
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_090l.gif
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_096l.gif
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_102l.gif
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_108l.gif
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav-Model Runs

#2197 Postby PTPatrick » Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:34 pm

That front aint gonna be no joke either. Denver will be going from Highs today around 90 to 70/upper 60s midweek...
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#2198 Postby BigB0882 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:35 pm

PTPatrick wrote:That front aint gonna be no joke either. Denver will be going from Highs today around 90 to 70/upper 60s midweek...


So are you saying that I should be in Denver right now? :cheesy:
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav-Model Runs

#2199 Postby PTPatrick » Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:38 pm

Sure am. Denver weather is beautiful. Wish I could my parents off that confounded bayou so they dont have to worry with these things anymore...
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#2200 Postby Nederlander » Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:44 pm

when can we expect the new models to come out? itll be interesting to see how much, if any, these models shift...
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