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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in SE Bahamas

#2981 Postby meteorologyman » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:20 pm

yeah I'm noticing that to, I have to go to work soon, so what you guys think of the match I written
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#2982 Postby RL3AO » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:21 pm

Frank2 wrote:First, Destruction5 - per TWC on Gustav, "Even if Gulf water is 90 degrees it doesn't matter if shear is present"...


Yep. That shear did nothing to Gustav in the GOM...
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#2983 Postby Trader Ron » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:21 pm

Vortex wrote:12 Z Nogaps right over southern florida.

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/wxmap_cgi/cg ... 2008090212


And..up the West Coast of Florida.

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#2984 Postby pavelbure224 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:21 pm

Its on NBC6.net
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in SE Bahamas

#2985 Postby mel38 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:22 pm

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#2986 Postby cpdaman » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:22 pm

Frank2 wrote:First, Destruction5 - per TWC on Gustav, "Even if Gulf water is 90 degrees it doesn't matter if shear is present"...

And, dixiebreeze - I checked CNN and FOX and none mention Gov. Crist stating anything of the sort - can you tell us where you heard this statement?

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gov. christ would just be taking precautionary measures to make sure he gets the request for emergency funds into the gov't BEFORE HAND. so that should hanna effect us that the aid would be there for sure
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in SE Bahamas

#2987 Postby Bon » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:23 pm

TALLAHASSEE, Florida -- Gov. Charlie Crist today declared a state of emergency as the third tropical weather system in three weeks swept toward Florida.

With state emergency workers still helping with recovery from Tropical Storm Fay's flooding and deploying aid to Gulf Coast states hit by Hurricane Gustav, now downgraded to a tropical depression, Crist turned his attention to Tropical Storm Hanna.

Right behind Hanna on a map the governor displayed at a morning briefing were Tropical Storms Ike and Josephine.

"It's too soon to know where they'll go," state meteorologist Ben Nelson said. But he and Craig Fugate, director of the Division of Emergency Management, said Floridians must monitor the storm systems and heed evacuation orders if they come.

"Gustav's outer edges continue to bring severe weather to the Florida Panhandle," said Crist. "We urge all evacuees to remain here in Florida until local officials back home tell them it is safe to return."

Preparing for Hanna, Crist said, he issued an executive order declaring a state of emergency.

"Hanna became the third tropical system to threaten our state in the last three weeks alone," said Crist. The storm was 550 miles south-southeast of Miami with maximum winds of 70 miles an hour, and Crist said it will likely stall over the Bahamas for two days -- becoming a Category 2 hurricane by Thursday.

"Most of the Florida Peninsula and the eastern Panhandle fall within the average track forecast error cone through the next five days," he said. "The forecast for Hanna remains uncertain and Floridians from the Keys northward along the Florida east coast should stay tuned to the latest updates this week. Be prepared to act."

He said heavy rains from Hanna could begin Thursday.

Crist said there were reports of three deaths in rip currents near Fort Lauderdale on Monday. He urged everyone to "stay out of the water" until the systems pass.

Florida's National Guard is also assisting Louisiana recovery efforts by lending four emergency response systems and a C23 fixed wind aircraft to help fly special needs patient back to hospitals and nursing homes.

Governor Crist admitted he's probably ditching the Republican National Convention, thanks to the continued storm threat.

"It's important to be here," said Crist.

Crist urged Floridians to donate money and resources to recovery efforts.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in SE Bahamas

#2988 Postby jdjaguar » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:23 pm


that would be Crist..not Christ.
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#2989 Postby Frank2 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:25 pm

Yes, it's strictly a logistical measure, since it takes time to get the red tape moving...

Thanks for the information...
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in SE Bahamas

#2990 Postby dixiebreeze » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:25 pm

Crist issues state of emergency in response to Hanna
Tuesday, September 2, 2008

Gov. Crist declared the state of emergency Tuesday morning.
TALLAHASSEE (Bay News 9) -- A state of emergency has been issued for Florida in response to Tropical Storm Hanna.

Gov. Charlie Crist declared the state of emergency Tuesday morning as Hanna prepared to pass across the Bahamas in the next few days.

Hanna is the third system to threaten Florida in the past three weeks and one of four current name weather systems in the Atlantic Ocean and Gulf of Mexico.

More Information

State of Emergency declared
The storm is about 550 southeast of Miami and could be a Category 2 storm by the end of the week as it approaches north Florida and the Georgia state line, its forecasted track.

Crist advised residents to be prepared to act in the event Hanna affects the state.
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#2991 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:25 pm

Frank2 wrote:Yes, it's strictly a logistical measure, since it takes time to get the red tape moving...

Thanks for the information...


well I guess the waiting game continues....

seems like Hanna is starting to reorganize again.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in SE Bahamas

#2992 Postby fci » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:26 pm

jdjaguar wrote:

that would be Crist..not Christ.



WOW, what an opening for a series of jokes..................
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in SE Bahamas

#2993 Postby BensonTCwatcher » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:26 pm

starting to see some primitive convective bands. Note the tiny one at the base lobe of the trof to N of Hanna. aided by the NE flow? hmmm. Def some forming in he SE quadrant.

easy to see here http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/sloop-rb.html
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in SE Bahamas

#2994 Postby cpdaman » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:28 pm

ya i think right now hanna is hanna two face and that recon will show much stronger winds on right side.........
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#2995 Postby Trader Ron » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:34 pm

Gal on WJNO said Hanna is located near Nassau.

Hmmmmm.....

:roll: :roll:
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#2996 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:38 pm

Trader Ron wrote:Gal on WJNO said Hanna is located near Nassau.

Hmmmmm.....

:roll: :roll:


Depends on your definition of near!!!
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in SE Bahamas

#2997 Postby cpdaman » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:38 pm

recon certainly is not impressing anyone right now.....yet

appears closing in on center (since the plane is at 21/73.6 with 997 mb and falling.............)

and borderline minimal ts winds on left side (but se quad should be robust)
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#2998 Postby gtsmith » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:41 pm

Trader Ron wrote:Gal on WJNO said Hanna is located near Nassau.

Hmmmmm.....

:roll: :roll:

do you remember her name? cuz my daughter in law works the anchor desk during the morning shift there...I'll set her straight if it was her...but usually she's off at this hour
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#2999 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:43 pm

Hanna ramping up again folks, definitely a relentless storm in the face of high shear.

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in SE Bahamas

#3000 Postby cpdaman » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:44 pm

gator the key in the last few hours appears that the shear has gone from hurting to divergent ......like yesterday when she strengthened........my guess is recon's last center fix has noticeably lower pressure than there first will (should satelite trends continue)

she is starting to build and wrap convection on her NE side

1732 utc imagery shows this

http://adds.aviationweather.gov/satelli ... &itype=vis
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