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#3021 Postby BensonTCwatcher » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:09 pm

so she will loop after all instead of the "V" to the W. Expect an east shift in models in the near term. Want to see the next few runs about teh 3-5 day track.
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#3022 Postby OuterBanker » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:09 pm

Very interesting, 2pm now has Hanna with just short of landfall in north Fl, then sharp north turn.
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#3023 Postby Grease Monkey » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:09 pm

Bocadude85 wrote: wonder if that would mean a track further east of the bahamas and florida


I would think so or because she continues to drift south, it may give it more time for the new ridge to build in further causing her to move more west then NW like I believe one of the mets here mentioned last night.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in SE Bahamas

#3024 Postby Bocadude85 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:10 pm

cpdaman wrote:perhaps she loops back to the west then nw? any promets know what to make of her apparent SE movement and wether this means further east long term or wether the 12z runs are still good, despite this movement

i did see a met say the longer she is in the bahamas the further west she would go
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#3025 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:11 pm

Yes because the more time it allows the ridge to build.
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#3026 Postby Trader Ron » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:13 pm

Crown weather has a 58 mph wind swath from The Cape to Jax a/o 11 AM.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in SE Bahamas

#3027 Postby expat2carib » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:14 pm

Hanna in the Turks and Caicos Isl.

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#3028 Postby bucman1 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:15 pm

This past sat ,(i believe)the UKM had this hitting south florida and moving up the west coast,not that I'm saying it will do that,
but someone said the Nogaps 12z run just showed the same thing,can anyone verify that?
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#3029 Postby Blown Away » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:16 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Yes because the more time it allows the ridge to build.


Watching the satellite loops you can see that big ridge pushing in from the NE.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in SE Bahamas

#3030 Postby artist » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:18 pm

expat2carib wrote:Hanna in the Turks and Caicos Isl.



Oh my! That is not good.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in SE Bahamas

#3031 Postby Decomdoug » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:21 pm

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WTNT33 KNHC 021756
TCPAT3
BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM HANNA INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 23A
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL082008
200 PM AST TUE SEP 02 2008
AT 200 PM AST...1800Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM HANNA WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 20.6 NORTH...LONGITUDE 72.9 WEST OR JUST
SOUTHEAST OF GREAT INAGUA ISLAND IN THE SOUTHEASTERN BAHAMAS AND
ABOUT 420 MILES...680 KM...SOUTHEAST OF NASSAU.

HANNA HAS BEEN DRIFTING SOUTHEASTWARD TODAY.

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WTNT23 KNHC 021453
TCMAT3
TROPICAL STORM HANNA FORECAST/ADVISORY NUMBER 23
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL082008
1500 UTC TUE SEP 02 2008

PRESENT MOVEMENT TOWARD THE WEST-SOUTHWEST OR 250 DEGREES AT 5 KT



In the words of the late Lloyd Bridges in the movie Airplane, "Looks like I picked a bad day to give up drinking" LOL
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#3032 Postby CalmBeforeStorm » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:22 pm

Now that the GFDL is the right outlier showing Hanna within 110 miles of WPB and NOGAPS is the left outlier showing a direct WPB hit with HWRF annd GFS both within 50 miles of the coast I would fully expect the middle of the cone to be just off the WPB coast and a hurricane watch for this portion of S.Fla by 11:00PM tonight as tommorrow would be needed for preperations for a thursday hit. The Euro is the only model left to be heard from.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in SE Bahamas

#3033 Postby Aristotle » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:22 pm

It looks as if the shearing effects of Gus are at an end. He's had is thumb on her for some time. With that ridge moving in quite quickly for the NE, it seems Hanna Montana maybe be visiting Florida sooner than expected. I'm still thinking that Hanna is gonna help really soften up Ike. Any takers on that?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in SE Bahamas

#3034 Postby ExBailbonds » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:23 pm

Step away from the floater and have a look at the bigger picture and see what gator and others are talking abought. The ridge is coming down pretty fast.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-wv.html
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in SE Bahamas

#3035 Postby Aristotle » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:25 pm

Is that ridge gonna shear Hanna?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in SE Bahamas

#3036 Postby cpdaman » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:25 pm

Aristotle wrote:It looks as if the shearing effects of Gus are at an end. He's had is thumb on her for some time. With that ridge moving in quite quickly for the NE, it seems Hanna Montana maybe be visiting Florida sooner than expected. I'm still thinking that Hanna is gonna help really soften up Ike. Any takers on that?



i don't know aristotle, it may help ike gain some latitude in the medium term, but perhaps just enough to cause him to not slip under s.f l could be a lose-lose in s fla
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in SE Bahamas

#3037 Postby NEXRAD » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:27 pm

Possible Florida Impacts...

Just an FYI. Based on the current TPC/NHC official forecast and the model spread, tropical storm conditions will be a real possibility for Florida coastal counties north of Fort Lauderdale with Hanna, barring that the storm doesn't do something very unexpected (like dissipate). Generally areas east of a line from about Key Largo to Lake Okeechobbee to Orlando to vicinity of Gainesville are most prone to have some impact from this system if it follows close to the guidance envelope or the NHC track.

This said, I anticipate a TS Storm Watch going up for parts of East Florida by the 5AM Wednesday advisory.

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#3038 Postby Trader Ron » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:27 pm

CalmBeforeStorm wrote:Now that the GFDL is the right outlier showing Hanna within 110 miles of WPB and NOGAPS is the left outlier showing a direct WPB hit with HWRF annd GFS both within 50 miles of the coast I would fully expect the middle of the cone to be just off the WPB coast and a hurricane watch for this portion of S.Fla by 11:00PM tonight as tommorrow would be needed for preperations for a thursday hit. The Euro is the only model left to be heard from.


A question.

Why would they put up a hurricane watch at 11:00 PM, when a lot of people are in bed.

They would wake up to a hurricane watch. Doesn't make sense, but what do I know.

:wink:
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in SE Bahamas

#3039 Postby Blown Away » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:28 pm

Aristotle wrote:Is that ridge gonna shear Hanna?


Bump!

Good question, I want to know that.
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#3040 Postby CalmBeforeStorm » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:31 pm

Trader Ron wrote:
CalmBeforeStorm wrote:Now that the GFDL is the right outlier showing Hanna within 110 miles of WPB and NOGAPS is the left outlier showing a direct WPB hit with HWRF annd GFS both within 50 miles of the coast I would fully expect the middle of the cone to be just off the WPB coast and a hurricane watch for this portion of S.Fla by 11:00PM tonight as tommorrow would be needed for preperations for a thursday hit. The Euro is the only model left to be heard from.


A question.

Why would they put up a hurricane watch at 11:00 PM, when a lot of people are in bed.

They would wake up to a hurricane watch. Doesn't make sense, but what do I know.

:wink:


Because they would know the next morning so they could plan their day.
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