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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3161 Postby cpdaman » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:27 am

ok appears i can finally use visible to get a center fix on bertha

as of 1345Z she is at 24.2 N 57.3 W and looking quite mean might i add

note this thing will probably undergo IMO rapid intensification and then weakening and then stalling and then who knows what
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#3162 Postby Chacor » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:38 am

Newest forecast has been issued. Initial 65 kts, maxes out at 75 kts.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3163 Postby Sanibel » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:39 am

You can see two surface "feeder bands" (not really feeder bands but inflow) extend south into the tropics all the way to South America from Bertha. This probably explains its resilience. I think Bertha is feeling the edge of the High above it which probably makes a better upper overhead environment leading to the warm-top better organization. If this was August we would probably have a much fiercer hurricane.

Not a true "fist" this time because you won't see intensification follow.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3164 Postby SkyDragon » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:41 am

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#3165 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:45 am

Looking better at last, eye has really emerged and at least it should be easier to track again!
Seems like 65kts is reasonable for now though slow strengthening probably is occuring as of now.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3166 Postby Sanibel » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:02 am

It has the illusion of a west turn doesn't it?
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3167 Postby dixiebreeze » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:06 am

Sanibel wrote:It has the illusion of a west turn doesn't it?


Re: the 11 a.m. update, it is now w/nw. If it gets beyond 60 I'll start to be concerned about the eastern seaboard.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3168 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:09 am

dixiebreeze wrote:
Sanibel wrote:It has the illusion of a west turn doesn't it?


Re: the 11 a.m. update, it is now w/nw. If it gets beyond 60 I'll start to be concerned about the eastern seaboard.



The XTRP model looks downright spooky for Wilmington!

:D
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3169 Postby drezee » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:12 am

Ed Mahmoud wrote:
dixiebreeze wrote:
Sanibel wrote:It has the illusion of a west turn doesn't it?


Re: the 11 a.m. update, it is now w/nw. If it gets beyond 60 I'll start to be concerned about the eastern seaboard.



The XTRP model looks downright spooky for Wilmington!

:D


That s not a model...just a 5 day extension of the current movement extrapolated
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3170 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:13 am

:uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow:

Hence the smiley face.
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#3171 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:15 am

Yep looks like its now going WNW probably feeling the effects of the upper ridge that is nearby, once it gets to the west of that feature then we should see a more noticeable move to the north, though steering currents are expected to be light so anything could happen for a while?
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3172 Postby MiamiensisWx » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:16 am

Sanibel wrote:It has the illusion of a west turn doesn't it?

It's not an illusion; I'm observing a turn to the WNW as well.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/loop-vis.html
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3173 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:18 am

hmmmmm........ something is fishy,.... i see a longer wnw motion coming,. today

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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3174 Postby Weatherfreak14 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:19 am

I notyice a WNW Turn as well and each degree it moves more to the west the more bermuda is in trouble. Also it has a cat eye right now, i wonder if it shall open up a bit more throughout the day. :D
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3175 Postby fci » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:23 am

dixiebreeze wrote:
Sanibel wrote:It has the illusion of a west turn doesn't it?


Re: the 11 a.m. update, it is now w/nw. If it gets beyond 60 I'll start to be concerned about the eastern seaboard.


All the experts predicted this jog to the WNW.
Not to worry, it will turn gradually to the N, stall a bit and then move N or NNE.
This is of no concern to the Eastern Seaboard according to everything the Pro Mets and NHC say.
No ambiguity in their forecasts.
Bermuda is the only concern and it still looks to be well East of the island.
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#3176 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:23 am

Yep further west it gets now the greater the threat to Bermuda. You can see the western ridge weakening as the oen to the east take sover. I believe a weakness will cut through the middle and allow Bertha to head NNW eventually, thats the plan I believe. The longer this WNW motion continues though the greater risk of a landfall shot to Bermuda.
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#3177 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:23 am

If you want to see this hit the Eastern Seaboard, Intensification is going to have to not happen. If it becomes a more intense hurricane again it'll be more likely to shift north exactly as we saw earlier.

But then of course there is an obscene amount of model consensus against that, so I suppose that about says it all.
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#3178 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:25 am

One day she's strengthening, then the next day she's weakening, and next day she's strengthening. Can't she make up her mind! :lol:
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3179 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:29 am

fci wrote:
Bermuda is the only concern and it still looks to be well East of the island.


Got to admit I think its going to get closer to the island then you expect, the models are in good agreement that it will lift out to sea I do agree this shouldnt be an eastern seaboard threat but this is progged to get close enough to the USA that a slightly longer spell of WNW movement would increase the threat a lot.
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#3180 Postby Chacor » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:31 am

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