ATL HANNA: Extratropical - Discussion

[fasterdisaster]

Strengthening won't happen but she'll probably stop weakening as she moves away from Hispaniola.

[AdamFirst]

I'd guess she's at 50 knots or remained the same at 55. I agree that there will be no strengthening until at least she's done the loop.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

50 knots based on IR. Unoffical.

[KWT]

I'd also say about 50kts, there is nothing I can see right now that would support anything stronger then that really, though redcon did find a pretty low pressure mind you, does seem like the background pressures so far this year have been pretty low.

[MGC]

Until the UL winds die off and Hanna moves away from land, the system should not intensify. Looks like more rain for those poor people in Hati. Ike may give them more rains later in the period....MGC

[SouthFLTropics]

Question for the pro mets or anyone for that matter:

I have heard a few on here earlier this evening alluding to the fact that the models are trending east tonight because they are faster with their runs. The question I have is this. If Hanna hangs out down "South" longer is it better for us here on the South Central EC of Florida or worse? I guess there would be two trains of thought here. One would be the longer she's down there it gives the ridge a chance to build west and therefore steer her more towards us. The second thought would be the longer she hangs out the more chance a trough will pick her up and take her to the NE and maybe miss the CONUS all together. I'm a bit concerned that she may hang out too long and therefore get trapped and head more towards us here in FL than originally forecasted. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thank you.

SFT

[fasterdisaster]

If she stays there too long Ike will start shearing the life out of her.

[AdamFirst]

If she stays there too long Ike will start shearing the life out of her.

Ike would probably have her for dinner. It needs to move relatively quickly...it's like she's stuck in the mud spinning her tires

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

If she stays there too long Ike will start shearing the life out of her.

Ike would probably have her for dinner. It needs to move relatively quickly...it's like she's stuck in the mud spinning her tires

A system that is east of a cyclone gets it shear. On the other hand a system to the west(unless it is within 300 miles in my knowledge) don't get nearly as much shear as the system to the east of it, because of the outflow that comes off the eastern quad of a cyclone. So if this is a strong tropical storm or hurricane, Ike will start feeling it.

[NativeFloridaGirl]

Question for the pro mets or anyone for that matter:

I have heard a few on here earlier this evening alluding to the fact that the models are trending east tonight because they are faster with their runs. The question I have is this. If Hanna hangs out down "South" longer is it better for us here on the South Central EC of Florida or worse? I guess there would be two trains of thought here. One would be the longer she's down there it gives the ridge a chance to build west and therefore steer her more towards us. The second thought would be the longer she hangs out the more chance a trough will pick her up and take her to the NE and maybe miss the CONUS all together. I'm a bit concerned that she may hang out too long and therefore get trapped and head more towards us here in FL than originally forecasted. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thank you.

SFT

These are excellent questions. I just don't think there are definitive answers for us yet. It's very frustrating not knowing which way or when this thing will start to move.

~Beth~

[O Town]

Poor Hanna can't seem to get a break.
I didn't think the shear could get any worse, but it went from 50 kts on top of her this morning to 80kts now!!!
Its a wonder she is still here. lol

[fasterdisaster]

If she stays there too long Ike will start shearing the life out of her.

Ike would probably have her for dinner. It needs to move relatively quickly...it's like she's stuck in the mud spinning her tires

A system that is east of a cyclone gets it shear. On the other hand a system to the west(unless it is within 300 miles in my knowledge) don't get nearly as much shear as the system to the east of it, because of the outflow that comes off the eastern quad of a cyclone. So if this is a strong tropical storm or hurricane, Ike will start feeling it.

Thanks, never knew that, though it makes sense.

[gatorcane]

shear is kicking her butt right now thanks to the monster ULL to her north...

[artist]

Poor Hanna can't seem to get a break.
I didn't think the shear could get any worse, but it went from 50 kts on top of her this morning to 80kts now!!!
Its a wonder she is still here. lol

it's that tenaciousness that concerns me.

[HURAKAN]

Poor people in Hispaniola. What a cruel season so far for them. Back to back to back. Fay -> Gustav -> Hanna.

[gatorcane]

Question for the pro mets or anyone for that matter:

I have heard a few on here earlier this evening alluding to the fact that the models are trending east tonight because they are faster with their runs. The question I have is this. If Hanna hangs out down "South" longer is it better for us here on the South Central EC of Florida or worse? I guess there would be two trains of thought here. One would be the longer she's down there it gives the ridge a chance to build west and therefore steer her more towards us. The second thought would be the longer she hangs out the more chance a trough will pick her up and take her to the NE and maybe miss the CONUS all together. I'm a bit concerned that she may hang out too long and therefore get trapped and head more towards us here in FL than originally forecasted. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thank you.

SFT

These are excellent questions. I just don't think there are definitive answers for us yet. It's very frustrating not knowing which way or when this thing will start to move.

~Beth~

That is a good question. To me it seems the longer she meanders near Haiti, the better chance she has of heading more west because the ridge is going to build westward just north of her. It would be the same ridge that builds westward and steers Ike westward.

I could be wrong though. I honestly have no idea where Hanna is going

[Weatherboy1]

this has to be one of the most frustrating storms I have ever tracked. Just fall apart or figure out where you're going to go already would you Hanna !??!

[fasterdisaster]

She actually looks a little better.

[HURAKAN]

Dolly was more frustrating than Hanna. I guess having Ike to track takes out a little of the frustration.

[O Town]

shear is kicking her butt right now thanks to the monster ULL to her north...

Well gee, thats how much I been paying attention.
Holy ULL!!!



http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/nwatl/loop-wv.html