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#3321 Postby Derek Ortt » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:26 pm

I don't thik that's an EWRC

Just looks like an intense eyewall on my GARP station
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3322 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:30 pm

57,what is a moat?
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#3323 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:31 pm

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REALLY IMPRESSIVE.
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#3324 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:32 pm

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#3325 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:37 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Image


Thank you Sandy for the graphic that shows all of what is moat.Very interesting stuff there for all to learn.
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#3326 Postby Derek Ortt » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:40 pm

I dont see a moat on the 2145 or the visible

that is very hard to see though on conventional imagery. We need microwave to see that clearly
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3327 Postby CajunMama » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:40 pm

cycloneye wrote:57,what is a moat?


I'm not wxman57 but i remember seeing this on a page i found

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The term "moat" usually refers to the region between the eyewall and an outer rainband, such as a secondary eyewall rainband (see the image above). The moat is the relatively light rain region between the rainband and the eyewall.



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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3328 Postby wjs3 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:40 pm

cycloneye wrote:57,what is a moat?


I posted a link to this MIMIC imagery a few days ago and thought it worthwhile to post again given the ERC conversation here.. It shows Ivan going through an ERC for those who wnat to know more. You'll see a secondary eyewall form, along with a moat (a ring caused by subsidence that forms between the inner and outer eyewalls). Then you'll see the inner eyewall collapse and the outer eyewall contract to take its place.

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... ivan1.html
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#3329 Postby Cyclenall » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:43 pm

Right now, it looks like it's back at peak strength IMO. The eye is really good now (like 50 hours ago). The convection isn't weak enough to sound the EWRC bell yet in that region.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3330 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:45 pm

CajunMama wrote:
cycloneye wrote:57,what is a moat?


I'm not wxman57 but i remember seeing this on a page i found

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The term "moat" usually refers to the region between the eyewall and an outer rainband, such as a secondary eyewall rainband (see the image above). The moat is the relatively light rain region between the rainband and the eyewall.



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Thanks CM,I got all of what I wanted to know there and more as answers came in a row.
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#3331 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:52 pm

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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3332 Postby gotoman38 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:00 pm

WOW - What an amazing storm to track!!!!!

Also - what an amazing board to learn about TCs - I'm as impressed by the 160+ pages of discussion (to date) on this storm as I am by the storm itself - THANK YOU TO ALL!
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3333 Postby weatherguru18 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:03 pm

A good indication of direction is to watch the direction of the clouds blowing off. Notice that the clouds being vented are being pulled north. She's (forgot the terminology--what Isabel was) on the south side and 'top heavy' on the northside.

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/huirloop.html
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#3334 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:06 pm

I say borderline cat2/3 right now.

I say thank god for storm2k. I don't know what I do with out it!
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#3335 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:07 pm

2008JUL09 204500 5.4 961.8/ -0.2 / 99.6 5.4 5.4 5.4 NO LIMIT OFF OFF 4.24 -56.23 EYE 16 IR 24.93 58.13 COMBO
2008JUL09 211500 5.4 961.8/ -0.2 / 99.6 5.4 5.4 5.4 NO LIMIT OFF OFF 5.54 -56.33 EYE 18 IR 24.97 58.18 COMBO
2008JUL09 214500 5.4 961.8/ -0.2 / 99.6 5.4 5.4 5.4 NO LIMIT OFF OFF 12.54 -55.37 EYE 21 IR 25.02 58.35 COMBO
2008JUL09 221500 5.4 961.8/ -0.2 / 99.6 5.4 5.1 5.1 NO LIMIT OFF OFF 11.84 -52.83 EYE 22 IR 24.97 58.29 COMBO

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Constant for the last hour and a half.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3336 Postby weatherguru18 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:09 pm

Can somebody help me out with terminology? I can't think of what a hurricane is called when there isn't very many clouds being vented off. Very clean cut so to speak. The only hurricane I can think of is Isabel...it was Isabel right? It's going to drive me crazy!
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#3337 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:10 pm

You mean, annular?
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#3338 Postby weatherguru18 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:11 pm

HURAKAN wrote:You mean, annular?


YES!!! THANK YOU!!!!
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#3339 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:13 pm

I think NHC will probably upgrade to category-3, its close enough now to warrant it being upgraded IMO. Also still looks pretty good though I'd imagine it must be getting close to her peak right now given the heat content in the region.

gotoman38, yep for all these long trackers you tend to find these threads get close to if not above 100 pages long, esp when there is a threat to the USA.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3340 Postby srainhoutx » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:14 pm

Great job folks. Sure looks good from a distance, doesn't it. 8-)
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