ATL: Tropical Depression Dolly

[dwg71]

is this where you are seeing the LLC?

Yeah,,, http://www.cira.colostate.edu/cira/RAMM ... pical.html Look at the floater that is centered over the it. It will take a second and you will have to look at the low clouds.

Ya thats it. About 83 W. You can see it. No way it could be anything else.

Edit I thought I saw that feature earlier but i chalked it up as being tired

showing up very well on IR

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-ir2.html

i still think the axis is further south just west of the southern convection. it still appears to be an open wave. dont think recon will find a llc until/if it exits into boc.

[stevetampa33614]

mm. Not sure how you can state that. There clearly is an LLC showing up now. im pretty sure Recon will find it.

[dwg71]

mm. Not sure how you can state that. There clearly is an LLC showing up now. im pretty sure Recon will find it.

clearly??? lets just wait and see. recon should be there before too long. nothing is clear at this point.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

mm. Not sure how you can state that. There clearly is an LLC showing up now. im pretty sure Recon will find it.

clearly??? lets just wait and see. recon should be there before too long. nothing is clear at this point.

I can see it clearly moving under the convection. It is centered at 17.6/81.9 with convection now covering it. So you can hardly see it any more. But anyways, we will have to wait for recon. I was not going to hype this system so to find this is going against that.

[Cryomaniac]

I can't remember who said it, but I think it was in 2006, someone on the board said something like "Whatever it looks like, it's not a Tropical Cyclone until the NHC say it is".

Now I think about it, it may have been in a discussion about Accuweather.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

I can't remember who said it, but I think it was in 2006, someone on the board said something like "Whatever it looks like, it's not a Tropical Cyclone until the NHC say it is".

Now I think about it, it may have been in a discussion about Accuweather.

How about the "cyclones" 500, 1,000, 100,000 or a million years ago. Because the nhc was not around doe's not make them not cyclones. The nhc is only the freaking record keeper for crying out load. People a cyclone is not controled by the nhc that is just reality. If you can't understand that then you need to see a doctor.

I'm sorry but that is a fact. Now they do have great knowledge in forecasting and keeping records of them. In which I do respect. But come on.

[Cryomaniac]

How about the "cyclones" 500, 1,000, 100,000 or a million years ago. Because the nhc was not around doe's not make them not cyclones. The nhc is only the freaking record keeper for crying out load. People a cyclone is not controled by the nhc that is just reality. If you can't understand that then you need to see a doctor.

I'm sorry but that is a fact. Now they do have great knowledge in forecasting and keeping records of them. In which I do respect. But come on.

I know that. I was just providing a quote.

I'm going to find that Accuweather thread...

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

I will wait intil the recon confirms it...This storm has burnt us many of times, but I believe a LLC has formed. "But there is a chance that this system has made it 100 feet above the surface all the way around. In which for this system would not suprize me at all." In which at that low of level I could not tell from a satellite.

[Cryomaniac]

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=97610&hilit=accuweather

That's the thread I was talking about, it's not the actual quote I wanted, but I did find this quote related to it:

I can understand this being a problem if it was a direct threat to someone. As it is it is a matter of interpretation imho.

If anyone is that bothered by accuweather saying what they did, sue them.

However, it's not Accu's job to designate Tropical Depressions, tornado warnings, or floods. It's the government's responsibility the last I checked.

[littlevince]

Hummm

Quikscat at 09:32Z

EDIT: Quikscat removed, it is too old.

[dwg71]

not much of anything on Qs

[WmE]

This quicscat is from 0005z. It's old.

[stevetampa33614]

Hummm

Quikscat at 09:32Z

recent? I cant argue with that. Lets see what recon finds.

[deltadog03]

I would have to say there is something around 18N and 81.5W

[littlevince]

:uarrow: This quicscat is from 0005z. It's old.

It says 09:32Z. But you are right, as the new one say 11:03Z and is exactly the same.
How can I know the real time ?

[Derek Ortt]

I'd say about 16N 81W based upon nighttime visible

startiong to have a very hard understanding why a closed circulation is not developing

[WmE]

:uarrow: This quicscat is from 0005z. It's old.

It says 09:32Z. But you are right, as the new one say 11:03Z and is exactly the same.
How can I know the real time ?

Look at the bottom of the picture.

[cycloneye]

Bouy at 16.8n-81.5w shows changes in wind direction in the past few hours and gusts of tropical storm force.

Time (GMT) WSPD WDIR
1033 36.9 kts SE ( 128 deg true )


http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42057

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

There appears to be two LLC's right now. One where derek says around 16.5/81.5 or so with the buoy turning southeastward. While a broader LLC at 17.7/82.3 is with the northern blob in is doing the same with the northern buoy. This is one weird system.

[stevetampa33614]

There appears to be two LLC's right now. One where derek says around 16.5/81.5 or so with the buoy turning southeastward. While a broader LLC at 17.7/82.3 is with the northern blob in is doing the same with the northern buoy. This is one weird system.

First the problem was it couldn't get one, and now it may have too many

So if thats true. could the southern and northern convective blobs form 2 seperate storms? im sorry im pretty drunk right now. But this is odd.