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#3861 Postby Vortex » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:19 pm

00z NAM shifts further North..Not sure if this is a result of the data entered from recon..Not liking this trend.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#3862 Postby robbielyn » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:20 pm

MBryant wrote:
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MBryant wrote:I really don't want to evacuate again, but I will if necessary. It is looking like the same areas threatened by Gustav will be threatened by Ike.

I don't know where orange tx is is it the ne coast next to la? I was thinking that ike is alot smaller maybe it won't be that bad in your area.


It's on I-10 at the Louisiana border. Another way to locate it is to look for the intersection of Rita and Humberto.

Gustav caused us to evacuate, but there was no damage as it's winds and heavy rains stayed to our east.


I think this will be east of you by quite a bit so maybe just ts winds. the hurricane winds don't expand too far out. I hope you don't have to evacuate.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#3863 Postby MBryant » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:20 pm

stormy1970al wrote:http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/tropical/rain/betsy1965.html


I shouldn't forget Audrey in 1957 either.
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#3864 Postby fasterdisaster » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:22 pm

Looks like he could actually be south of the next forecast point at this rate.
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#3865 Postby stormy1970al » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:22 pm

Vortex wrote:00z NAM shifts further North..Not sure if this is a result of the data entered from recon..Not liking this trend.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml



Looks like it is going through the passage between Cuba and the Keys. Not that far off from earlier today, is it? Just one model though so I am going to sit back and just read.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#3866 Postby jinftl » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:23 pm

Trying to speculate if there is an increase in threat to a specific location on the Gulf Coast... for a landfall that is more than 120 hours out...by looking at wobbles Ike is making now, by looking at what the exact heading now is (255 or 265 degrees), by speculating if 12 miles/hour is a significant slowdown in forward speed...is like trying to gauge what the impact is of slightly changing the angle you stand at with a pool cue when hitting the 6-ball to set the 10-ball into motion at an angle so it hits the 4-ball into the left corner pocket.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#3867 Postby fasterdisaster » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:23 pm

robbielyn wrote:
MBryant wrote:
robbielyn wrote: I don't know where orange tx is is it the ne coast next to la? I was thinking that ike is alot smaller maybe it won't be that bad in your area.


It's on I-10 at the Louisiana border. Another way to locate it is to look for the intersection of Rita and Humberto.

Gustav caused us to evacuate, but there was no damage as it's winds and heavy rains stayed to our east.


I think this will be east of you by quite a bit so maybe just ts winds. the hurricane winds don't expand too far out. I hope you don't have to evacuate.


Friendly request: Please don't say something like this w/o a disclaimer when s/he is well within the cone.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#3868 Postby Frank P » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:23 pm

Now looks to be due east of the gap between Little Inagua Island and Great Inagua Island

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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#3869 Postby MBryant » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:25 pm

jinftl wrote:Trying to speculate if there is an increase in threat to a specific location on the Gulf Coast... for a landfall that is more than 120 hours out...by looking at wobbles Ike is making now, by looking at what the exact heading now is (255 or 265 degrees), by speculating if 12 miles/hour is a significant slowdown in forward speed...is like trying to gauge what the impact is of slightly changing the angle you stand at with a pool cue when hitting the 6-ball to set the 10-ball into motion at an angle so it hits the 4-ball into the left corner pocket.


~I do that all the time.~
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#3870 Postby fasterdisaster » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:25 pm

tolakram wrote:
fasterdisaster wrote:Is dry air getting entrained into his core right now?



I don't see it.

http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... olor=white

Are we in an eclipse yet?


1. I could have been imagining it since now I look again it could have just been the rotation of storms from his west to east quadrants.
2. Yes.
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#3871 Postby Vortex » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:25 pm

00Z Nam shifts north and misses cuba with a wnw heading and a significant threat to the fl keys..I believe this run is with the information filltered in from recon today.




http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml
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#3872 Postby fasterdisaster » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:26 pm

When is the next recon mission?
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#3873 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:26 pm

Vortex wrote:00z NAM shifts further North..Not sure if this is a result of the data entered from recon..Not liking this trend.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml


its the NAM... no need for concern
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#3874 Postby stormy1970al » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:26 pm

Matt Barrentine on Fox Ten in Mobile just commented on Ike. He said it is way too early to know exactly where Ike is going. They will know more when Ike enters the Gulf on Tuesday or Wednesday. Just be prepare and many of us already got our stuff when Gustav was in the Gulf. The main thing I will have to do is gas up my car.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#3875 Postby Sanibel » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:26 pm

Can't imagine what the NAM is seeing with that avoidance of Cuba. Now I'll have to check in over night. We'll once and for all find out if the NAM is always wrong.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#3876 Postby robbielyn » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:27 pm

jinftl wrote:Trying to speculate if there is an increase in threat to a specific location on the Gulf Coast... for a landfall that is more than 120 hours out...by looking at wobbles Ike is making now, by looking at what the exact heading now is (255 or 265 degrees), by speculating if 12 miles/hour is a significant slowdown in forward speed...is like trying to gauge what the impact is of slightly changing the angle you stand at with a pool cue when hitting the 6-ball to set the 10-ball into motion at an angle so it hits the 4-ball into the left corner pocket.

Man you're good thats an excellent illustration if I say so myself!!
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#3877 Postby fasterdisaster » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:27 pm

Vortex wrote:00Z Nam shifts north and misses cuba with a wnw heading and a significant threat to the fl keys..I believe this run is with the information filltered in from recon today.




http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml


Oh goody. :roll: Let's hope NAM is an outlier.
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#3878 Postby Frank P » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:27 pm

stormy1970al wrote:
Vortex wrote:00z NAM shifts further North..Not sure if this is a result of the data entered from recon..Not liking this trend.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml



Looks like it is going through the passage between Cuba and the Keys. Not that far off from earlier today, is it? Just one model though so I am going to sit back and just read.


Yeah, NAM never goes over Cuba, it that were to come to fruition Ike better start moving WNW and soon.. Ike looks to be right on the NHC track ATTM
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#3879 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:28 pm

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Powerful Ike.
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#3880 Postby Stormcenter » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:29 pm

What did the best with Gustav?
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