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Re: ATL IKE Category 3 - Discussion

#4841 Postby Sabanic » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:12 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:
Storm Contractor wrote:Pretty clear here, overlay the Lat/Long and you can watch it ride just north of due west just north of 21.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t4/sloop-wv.html



If it goes just north of west through Cuba...It will spend about 2 or so days over Cuba. I don't expect more then a 50 knot tropical storms once it gets off. After that it won't have a innercore and will take at least 36 hours to rebuild.

Georges never came back to what he once was after rolling over Cuba. Hell, Isidore after going over the flat Yucatan was a corest system.


Hate to keep repeating myself, but Frederic in '79 was able to get to Cat 3 after traveling almost the entire length of Cuba.
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Re: ATL IKE Category 3 - Discussion

#4842 Postby KWT » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:14 pm

Sabanic wrote:Hate to keep repeating myself, but Frederic in '79 was able to get to Cat 3 after traveling almost the entire length of Cuba.


Frederic didn't have an inner core when it was over land, remember most of the time it was a TD and they don't have cores, unlike major hurricanes like Ike and actually stayed mainly south of Cuba along similar waters to Fay.
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Re: ATL IKE Category 3 - Discussion

#4843 Postby Sabanic » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:15 pm

You're right KWT. Thx
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#4844 Postby fasterdisaster » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:16 pm

He'll have 4 days in the Gulf of Mexico, plenty of time to again become very dangerous.
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Re: ATL IKE Category 3 - Discussion

#4845 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:17 pm

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Re: ATL IKE Category 3 - Discussion

#4846 Postby cpdaman » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:20 pm

when looking at the coast of cuba the best thing for IKE to remain strong would be to have another WNW wobble in the next hour or two and then go due west thru cuba , that will take him out near 21.6 / 78.5 in a shorter amount of time.
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#4847 Postby TideJoe » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:26 pm

KWT wrote:To be fair Matt though Georges hit like 7 islands on the way through...and still hit as a top end 2 like Gustav so it was still powerful.

As for Ike, indeed it'll lack an inner core out of Cuba but we shall have to wait and see how long it takes, I think it would take about 24-36hrs to rebuild that inner core when it comes out of Cuba, the track is key because if it goes further west it has enough time to restrengthen upto hurricane strength with space to spare.


Frederick ran into nearly every island in Caribbean and still landfalled as a 130mph Cat 3 in Dauphin Island, AL.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Frederic
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Re: ATL IKE Category 3 - Discussion

#4848 Postby Windtalker1 » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:27 pm

I was just looking at the National Data Buoy Center for the Gulf of Mexico and it seems to me that the 7 reporting stations are showing falling pressure with the stalled front to the North. Maybe I not reading this correctly but can an upper level low form here changing the track of Ike?

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/radial_search. ... E&dist=250
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#4850 Postby Dean4Storms » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:37 pm




NOGAPS is also with the HWRF, just to be accurate.
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#4851 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:39 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:



NOGAPS is also with the HWRF, just to be accurate.


general ike gives respect to the navy nogaps
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#4852 Postby ConvergenceZone » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:39 pm



The scariest part of what Jeff Masters says is the following

"Also of note...Ike will become a very large hurricane over the Gulf of Mexico likely expanding in size to nearly the entire Gulf as the interaction with Cuba broadens the wind field. " :eek:
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#4853 Postby Sabanic » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:45 pm



Is that Jeff Masters? Just wondering because in his blog just a little while ago JM said that he was not sure where Ike would make landfall.
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#4854 Postby perk » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:46 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:


The scariest part of what Jeff Masters says is the following

"Also of note...Ike will become a very large hurricane over the Gulf of Mexico likely expanding in size to nearly the entire Gulf as the interaction with Cuba broadens the wind field. " :eek:




I think you have the wrong Jeff. :D
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Re: ATL IKE Category 3 - Discussion

#4855 Postby robbielyn » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:47 pm

why is that scary those are ts winds not hurricane winds maybe strong rip currents though.
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Re: ATL IKE Category 3 - Discussion

#4856 Postby stormhorn » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:50 pm

robbielyn wrote:why is that scary those are ts winds not hurricane winds maybe strong rip currents though.

A hurricane that spans the entire Gulf is one Big A** hurricane :eek:
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Re: ATL IKE Category 3 - Discussion

#4857 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:51 pm

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Re: ATL IKE Category 3 - Discussion

#4858 Postby robbielyn » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:52 pm

stormhorn wrote:
robbielyn wrote:why is that scary those are ts winds not hurricane winds maybe strong rip currents though.

A hurricane that spans the entire Gulf is one Big A** hurricane :eek:


yeah i know but the majority of the wind field will still be ts winds. I just dont think this will be a real big deal to the e gom.
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Re: ATL IKE Category 3 - Discussion

#4859 Postby stormhorn » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:54 pm

Hopefully Not! Hubby is going away for 3 weeks right before he enters the Gulf. That will leave a whole lot of work for me if it gets Ugly!! :roll:
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#4860 Postby ConvergenceZone » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:54 pm

perk wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:


The scariest part of what Jeff Masters says is the following

"Also of note...Ike will become a very large hurricane over the Gulf of Mexico likely expanding in size to nearly the entire Gulf as the interaction with Cuba broadens the wind field. " :eek:




I think you have the wrong Jeff. :D





oops my mistake. I guess I just get so use to his reports being posted here
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