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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5381 Postby Noles2006 » Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:54 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Noles2006 wrote:So... it's a little ESE of the 2 p.m. position...


That vortex has dissipated.


Right, I understand that (I didn't mean for it to sound like I thought it had moved ESE, lol)
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5382 Postby StJoe » Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:55 pm

Looks to me like she's startring her nw turn

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-avn.html


I personally think that she is est of her forecast track right now, but who knows?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5383 Postby Noles2006 » Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:56 pm

StJoe wrote:Looks to me like she's startring her nw turn

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-avn.html


I still don't see any change of movement in the LLC...
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5384 Postby ekal » Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:57 pm

UNDERCAST
In aviation, it is an opaque cloud layer viewed from an observation point above the layer. From the ground, it would be considered an overcast.

From weatherdictionary.com

I imagine the cloud cover prevented a visual fix of the center. They must have supplied the VDM position based upon the location of the pressure minimum coupled with radar data.
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#5385 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:58 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Image
Yes, this image confirms it. The center is definitely further ESE.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5386 Postby Sanibel » Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:59 pm

There are 31* waters south of Cuba.

Fay is probably doing a d-min simultaneously with residual land weakening.

The track is close enough to NHC trop points that we should expect gradual refire and reconvecting with a clip of Cuba followed by ramp up south of Cuba.


Got full tank of gas and extra 2 gallon ball (which leaks). Costco was just starting to get busy with people buying water etc. They were taking extra water pallets down from the high racks. My grill propane tank is full. I worry about low pressure and a full tank - but it probably doesn't matter. Tonight I'll eat the frozen sirloin and tomorrow the shrimp from the freezer. Got case of Gatorade and case of water gallons. Already had fresh pack D-cells.

High pressure obvious here with doldrum skies blue top to bottom with very few lazy drifting fair weather clouds. Hot sun.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5387 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:59 pm

ekal wrote:UNDERCAST
In aviation, it is an opaque cloud layer viewed from an observation point above the layer. From the ground, it would be considered an overcast.

From weatherdictionary.com

I imagine the cloud cover prevented a visual fix of the center. They must have supplied the VDM position based upon the location of the pressure minimum coupled with radar data.


Thanks for the explanation about that.
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#5388 Postby StJoe » Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:01 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:
HURAKAN wrote:Image
Yes, this image confirms it. The center is definitely further ESE.



Which means??? :eek: :eek:
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5389 Postby carversteve » Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:02 pm

StJoe wrote:Looks to me like she's startring her nw turn

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-avn.html


I personally think that she is est of her forecast track right now, but who knows?

Still looks to be moving due west to this untrained and totally unofficial eye!
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#5390 Postby marciacubed » Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:02 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:
HURAKAN wrote:Image
Yes, this image confirms it. The center is definitely further ESE.

Is that a reformation or a SE movement?
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#5391 Postby UKane » Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:04 pm

I'm sticking with the NHC forecast.
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#5392 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:06 pm

marciacubed wrote:Is that a reformation or a SE movement?

Probably a reformation or relocation, definitely not a SE movement.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5393 Postby NEXRAD » Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:06 pm

I looked at the latest visible imagery and it appears to be merely a wobble or reformation of the storm center, which is not at all uncommon with weaker storms. The overall convective mass continues along a west to west-northwest heading.

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#5394 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:06 pm

this confirms my thoughts of utterly chucking the GFDL
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5395 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:06 pm

The 18:00 UTC Best track:Intensity down to 35kts.

AL, 06, 2008081618, , BEST, 0, 191N, 746W, 35, 1007, TS, 34, NEQ, 90, 60, 0, 0,
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#5396 Postby MWatkins » Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:07 pm

I think it's a reformation/redevelopment of the low center probably caused by the mountians on that peninsula to the south. Not a movement at all, just one of those land intereaction things.

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#5397 Postby carversteve » Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:08 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:this confirms my thoughts of utterly chucking the GFDL

Is the GFDL the furthest east of the models?..sorry don't remeber.
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#5398 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:09 pm

35 kt is correct based on Recon data.
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#5399 Postby marciacubed » Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:10 pm

Will the reformation help or hinder the intensity of the storm?
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Re: Re:

#5400 Postby ekal » Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:10 pm

carversteve wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:this confirms my thoughts of utterly chucking the GFDL

Is the GFDL the furthest east of the models?..sorry don't remeber.


Yes. Brushing SE FL, which looks unlikely at this time.
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