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#5521 Postby MusicCityMan » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:43 pm

If I read that map right, it actually calls for a double landfall since it has to cross over tampa bay before going back on shore..?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5522 Postby ronjon » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:44 pm

5 Pm track from NHC shows landfall near Venice FL with Fay moving north right up Tampa Bay.
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Gov. Charlie Crist declares State of Emergency for Florida

#5523 Postby dixiebreeze » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:44 pm

Fla. gov. declares emergency as storm approachesPublished - Aug 16 2008 03:57PM EDT |

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Florida's governor has declared a state of emergency for the state due to the threat of Tropical Storm Fay.

Gov. Charlie Crist says in the order that the storm threatens the state with a "major disaster."

Forecasters warned that Fay could bring hurricane-force winds to the Florida Keys as soon as Monday.


Forecasters said Saturday that the storm could hit as a Category 1 or 2 hurricane, with winds perhaps reaching more than 100 mph. But forecasters stressed it was too early to tell how intense the storm would become.

I really didn't know where to put this, but it is an unusually early STate of Emergency.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5524 Postby Sanibel » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:44 pm

If I read that map right, it actually calls for a double landfall since it has to cross over tampa bay before going back on shore..?



Charlotte Bay. Same area as Charley and Punta Gorda.
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#5525 Postby Steve » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:45 pm

Yeah, that's what I see. Hopefully for those in the coastal and floodprone areas, Fay only hits that area - assuming the current forecast would verify which we all know it won't exactly - as a tropical storm. That would be a really tough track for a major - one which potentially impacts several million people.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5526 Postby xironman » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:46 pm

Looks to me like it is good to shoot the Cuba - Jamaica gap before taking the hard right. Should have a good time over that water.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5527 Postby ronjon » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:47 pm

Sanibel wrote:
If I read that map right, it actually calls for a double landfall since it has to cross over tampa bay before going back on shore..?



Charlotte Bay. Same area as Charley and Punta Gorda.

Sanibel, that's actually Charlotte Harbor and no the track is west of there. Not that it matters much since we shouldn't focus on the line.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5528 Postby Sanibel » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:47 pm

Not comforting that they haven't veered from a hard side hit of Sanibel over the last 24 hours. It is unusual to have a track that zoned 3 days out.
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Re: Gov. Charlie Crist declares State of Emergency for Florida

#5529 Postby hazmat » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:47 pm

personally I think it's a little late for an emergency declaration. Only one way out of the Keys..takes a day for the tourists then a day for residents..that puts us at Mon night.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5530 Postby Weather Watcher » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:48 pm

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#5531 Postby JonathanBelles » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:48 pm

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Image of the Tampa-St. Pete Metro. The Blue line is the 5pm forecast track. The pin is where I am.
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Re: Gov. Charlie Crist declares State of Emergency for Florida

#5532 Postby dixiebreeze » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:49 pm

hazmat wrote:personally I think it's a little late for an emergency declaration. Only one way out of the Keys..takes a day for the tourists then a day for residents..that puts us at Mon night.


That's very true. In a sidebar story, the Florida National Guard says personnel and equipment is in a very "healthy" status and the guard is prepared.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5533 Postby lbvbl » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:49 pm

so is the 5pm track basically the same as the 11am? I'm still convinced the GFDL is a possibility
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5534 Postby Sanibel » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:50 pm

It's not a good sign at all that Fay has entrained curvature all the way down to Panama. Shows a good drawing field and southern inflow.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5535 Postby Jason_B » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:50 pm

They still have it moving due west at 5pm, looks more WNW to me but with it so disorganized I guess that could be an illusion.
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#5536 Postby JonathanBelles » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:50 pm

I dont think the declaration could have been any earlier.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5537 Postby Blown Away » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:50 pm

Don't forget the hurricane shield that is over Tampa, no science I'm just playing the odds a hurricane will not end up there.
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Re: TS Fay Personal forecasts

#5538 Postby flarrfan » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:51 pm

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I think the NHC is too far east with their track. My five day cone would include the mouth of the Mississippi on the west and the Middle Keys, Florida Bay on the east, with a track line into NW Florida between Pensacola and Panama City. I have no scientific reasoning, only a feeling that the models to this point have not been effectively initialized, and with some exceptions storms on this general track tend to turn more slowly than expected. Unless Fay explodes in intensity while still south of Cuba, I think its track will stay generally left of model guidance for another 24-48 hours, thus putting landfall in the panhandle rather than the peninsula.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5539 Postby Noles2006 » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:51 pm

Jason_B wrote:They still have it moving due west at 5pm, looks more WNW to me but with it so disorganized I guess that could be an illusion.



Closer to W than WNW... recon confirms...
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5540 Postby Jason_B » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:52 pm

Blown_away wrote:Don't forget the hurricane shield that is over Tampa, no science I'm just playing the odds a hurricane will not end up there.
I think I would rather be safe and prepare than to put my faith in a "hurricane shield".
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