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#6181 Postby WmE » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:18 am

stevetampa33614 wrote:
Heh cute. Whats the score anyway?

EPAC 6
ATLANTIC 4 maybe 5. That wave off africa looks great.


Man its a shame they all cant head up the coast like in the EPAC. Dont think its possible for california to get hit by a Tropical Storm.


Well there haven been 2 tropical storms that made landfalll in California.
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#6182 Postby KWT » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:19 am

Yep americanrebel tmeps probably at the coldest they wil lbe given the time of the day over there, they will warm a little as the day goes on but thats to be expected somewhat, should still see some cold cloud tops and with the heat content we have there is no reason why this can't bomb out :eek:

Slow movement still looks like since the last recon fixes its moved NW.
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#6183 Postby stevetampa33614 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:22 am

KWT wrote:should still see some cold cloud tops and with the heat content we have there is no reason why this can't bomb out :eek:



Ya Im still thing category 2 and I hope im right and nothing stronger. The models are all placing intensity in that Cat-1 -2 Scale.

Edit. However it wasnt supposed to slow down just yet its 12 hours early :eek:
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6184 Postby Sanibel » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:22 am

On trop points track more NW.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6185 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:24 am

Hyperstorm wrote:Fiinally, the easterly and southeasterly shear that has been abating Dolly for the past 24-36 hours is retreating. Outflow is starting to expand on the eastern quadrant and strengthening is imminent.

The time has come...



Yea was hoping this would not happen but it looks inevitable...Still loks like she will be mexican though....Lets hope all are ready...
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6186 Postby stevetampa33614 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:26 am

Im trying to Rock the last 2 frames and I cant really figure out where its going. Ide say its still W. But its hard to tell without the visible. And eye would be nice.
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#6187 Postby stevetampa33614 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:27 am

hurricanelandfall wrote:HWRF has landfall much further N with landfall occuring at about 27.4N 97.3 and undergoing rapid intensification. Landfall over 40 hours away on the 06 HWRF...a model the NHC believes will replace the GFDL.


Ya I posted that, but I chalked it up as being on being on Crack. said winds would be at 120mph at landfall. Just dont know at this point. Its alot farther north than the other models. GFS is dead smack on the Border. I tend to trust GFS a bit more. IMO.
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#6188 Postby HouTXmetro » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:28 am

From a rain perspecting I'm begining to get slightly concerned for TX/LA/MS/AL (Northern Gulf Coast). AS you can see the outer bands are poised to extend into those areas later today. If that band Trains coupled with daytime Heating all could be in for some intense Tropical Downpours and rain. Anyone thinking this?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/avn-l.jpg
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#6189 Postby KWT » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:28 am

Problem is stevetampa33614 the models can't always be trusted for strength issues, the thing is its got at elast 24hrs under very faovrable conditions, we've seen systems really bomb in these conditions and we've seen plenty of times these waters support cat-3/4 pretty readily. I don't think its got time for that sort of strength but cat-2/3 is possible, esp if it does have more time offland then estimated.

hurricanelandfall, its interesting that the systme has just recently been moving to the NW according to recon, a deeper storm may be able to drift just that little bit further north. How strong does it make Dolly?
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6190 Postby americanrebel » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:29 am

Another side note, the tops of the Thunder Heads are getting blown off to the North maybe North-North West. So if that is any sign, the steering currents of the Upper Level is more North. Of course this is just in Abbeville, La. just north of Intracoastal City.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6191 Postby canetracker » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:29 am

stevetampa33614 wrote:Im trying to Rock the last 2 frames and I cant really figure out where its going. Ide say its still W. But its hard to tell without the visible. And eye would be nice.

It looks to be barely moving if at all with maybe a NW component.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6192 Postby ronjon » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:30 am

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#6193 Postby stevetampa33614 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:30 am

KWT wrote:Problem is stevetampa33614 the models can't always be trusted for strength issues, the thing is its got at elast 24hrs under very faovrable conditions, we've seen systems really bomb in these conditions and we've seen plenty of times these waters support cat-3/4 pretty readily. I don't think its got time for that sort of strength but cat-2/3 is possible, esp if it does have more time offland then estimated.

hurricanelandfall, its interesting that the systme has just recently been moving to the NW according to recon, a deeper storm may be able to drift just that little bit further north. How strong does it make Dolly?


It puts dolly at 103kts/120mph/925mb which is a pretty significant system.

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Disclaimer. THIS IS JUST A MODEL.ALWAYS REFER TO YOUR LOCAL AUTHORITIES FOR OFFICIAL WARNINGS PLZ
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6194 Postby HouTXmetro » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:31 am

americanrebel wrote:Another side note, the tops of the Thunder Heads are getting blown off to the North maybe North-North West. So if that is any sign, the steering currents of the Upper Level is more North. Of course this is just in Abbeville, La. just north of Intracoastal City.


Hey I been to Abbeville before, was just in New Iberia Saturday! But anyways, I think that is the flow right now, North/NNW. My question is how good are the models in predicting the High will build back in? Is it possibele the weakness might be more pronouced and Dolly takes advantage of it?
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6195 Postby funster » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:32 am

What position did recon put Dolly at?
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#6196 Postby funster » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:33 am

Other models seem to take Dolly wnw and nw and then plunge her off to the Southwest http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tr ... model.html

If that happens there will be lots of concerns it is going to go much farther north and then suddenly it will turn back to the west again.
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#6197 Postby KWT » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:34 am

Hmmm at that height above ground I'd guess the HWRF would have winds around 95kts at the surface so probably high end cat-2 sustained winds at the surface. Its certainly possible though all depends on the exact track it takes, if it can stay slow and go more to the NW then there is every chance it could do that.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6198 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:35 am

The latest from the 12:00 UTC guidance puts the track moving 300 degrees at 11 kts.

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 23.7N LONCUR = 94.0W DIRCUR = 300DEG SPDCUR = 11KT
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6199 Postby canetracker » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:35 am

americanrebel wrote:Another side note, the tops of the Thunder Heads are getting blown off to the North maybe North-North West. So if that is any sign, the steering currents of the Upper Level is more North. Of course this is just in Abbeville, La. just north of Intracoastal City.


These are the latest steering currents. However, they are almost 3 hours old.

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic2/real-time/dlmmain.php?&basin=atlantic&sat=wg8&prod=dlm2&zoom=&time=
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6200 Postby ROCK » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:36 am

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... 8dlm5.html


see the weaken from 3 hours ago....see the weakness now.....also on WV see the weak ULL dropping down the Rio Grande...what roll that plays remains to be seen if any...
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