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#6681 Postby Jason_B » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:00 pm

srainhoutx wrote:
Noles2006 wrote:I see no change in track in the last 45-60 minutes... still WNW.


Agreed. WNW continues...
Not sure what you're looking at...a northerly jog is quite obvious.
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#6682 Postby gatorcane » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:01 pm

here is another good shot..

It looks like FAy hits a wall south of Cuba deflecting her more North...very strange....maybe it will knock her out for good I hope:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-vis.html
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#6683 Postby RL3AO » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:02 pm

Dropsonde confirms 1003mb.
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#6684 Postby Shockwave » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:02 pm

deltadog03 wrote:
gatorcane wrote:is it me or does it "look" like its starting to jump NNW already now --- probably just an illusion with the mid-level clouds covering the low-level center I guess..

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-vis.html


Thats the SAT. picture...I noticed the same thing...I was like what....the entire screen/system jumped...bad sat pic or 2...


I saw that too. :double: It looks like something caught it and just pushed it back northward, maybe (too me at least) it looked like it made a NE move. :x I hate you Fay! Make up your mind.
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#6685 Postby Ivanhater » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:03 pm

Jason_B wrote:
srainhoutx wrote:
Noles2006 wrote:I see no change in track in the last 45-60 minutes... still WNW.


Agreed. WNW continues...
Not sure what you're looking at...a northerly jog is quite obvious.



Really? I cant see it...look at the loop, everything jumps "back", bad images in the loop
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#6686 Postby chris_fit » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:03 pm

Fay looks like she hit a wall or something! Big slow down last hour or so, might be the turn?
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#6687 Postby robbielyn » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:04 pm

NEXRAD wrote:
KWT wrote:Nexred, problem is the whole thing is getting sheared so not sure you can use the convective movement as a very good guide at the moment IMO.


Agreed - it's tricky, but estimating movement from the LLC alone is prone to wobbles and short-term trends. Matching the two together gives a pretty good sense of where Fay is presently moving. Also, keep watch on the cloud movements ahead of the storm at both surface and upper levels, this helps to reveal the present steering condition setup just ahead of the storm.

- Jay

The last sentence you said Jay is backed up by what you saw with the bands of charlie when it was south of the keys. You predicted that turn before the nhc
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#6688 Postby KWT » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:04 pm

Careful though because sheared systems are always tough to look using those lower resolution sat imagery, I want to see what recon shows before suggesting there is any wobble to the NW .

This sat loop still suggest a motion close to WNW:

http://hadar.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... ive_0.html
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#6689 Postby gatorcane » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:04 pm

ALERT: Fay hits "wall" south of Cuba turning her north.

Her current state is:
:double:
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay South of Cuba

#6690 Postby cpdaman » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:04 pm

yes that "jump" was a bad satelite shot, the whole atlantic did it lol anyway

look at the radar folks

http://www.insmet.cu/asp/genesis.asp?TB ... AXw01a.gif

looks better organized as well as back building, keep in mind this has been crippled by land to it's east and north for most of it's life so the center is still gaining "maturity" , perhaps it may set up further E, (and this is not -removed-!) just an observation.
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#6691 Postby Noles2006 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:05 pm

Jason_B wrote:
srainhoutx wrote:
Noles2006 wrote:I see no change in track in the last 45-60 minutes... still WNW.


Agreed. WNW continues...
Not sure what you're looking at...a northerly jog is quite obvious.



http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/
1km visible that updates every 5-10 minutes.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay South of Cuba

#6692 Postby NEXRAD » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:06 pm

The 1915Z frame is not aligned properly. There's a massive jump towards the north with every single cloud in the Atlantic according to that frame so the apparent northward "jump" is really partial image error. If this movement is true, then I'd suggest looking towards Antarctica to see what just hit the Earth. :wink:

- Jay
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#6693 Postby funster » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:06 pm

RL3AO wrote:Dropsonde confirms 1003mb.


Pressure drop confirms what I was saying earlier - Fay has been getting better organized.
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#6694 Postby KWT » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:07 pm

Its not hit any wall ,the shear has caused convection to beocme more linear and LLC still seems to be going WNW, look at the high resolution sat loop I've just posted to see what I mean.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay South of Cuba

#6695 Postby gatorcane » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:07 pm

NEXRAD wrote:The 1915Z frame is not aligned properly. There's a massive jump towards the north with every single cloud in the Atlantic according to that frame so the apparent northward "jump" is really partial image error. If this movement is true, then I'd suggest looking towards Antarctica to see what just hit the Earth. :wink:

- Jay


I don't think so.

Look at the Atlantic wide view...I see nothing jumping north but Fay

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/loop-vis.html
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#6696 Postby Jason_B » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:08 pm

KWT wrote:Its not hit any wall ,the shear has caused convection to beocme more linear and LLC still seems to be going WNW, look at the high resolution sat loop I've just posted to see what I mean.
Yep, you're right...still looks pretty much wnw.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay South of Cuba

#6697 Postby Ivanhater » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:08 pm

Not seeing any NW movement on radar either..im sure its coming, just not yet

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay South of Cuba

#6698 Postby Frank P » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:09 pm

Simple to figure out motion in this case... for the time being, as long as it parallels the coast of Cuba its basically moving wnw... that is what the vis sat loops indicate at the moment... my untrained scientific opinion of course
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#6699 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:09 pm

Recon should be able to confirm whether or not this is moving WNW or NW pretty soon. Let's just wait and see what they find.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay South of Cuba

#6700 Postby Noles2006 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:09 pm

NEXRAD wrote:The 1915Z frame is not aligned properly. There's a massive jump towards the north with every single cloud in the Atlantic according to that frame so the apparent northward "jump" is really partial image error. If this movement is true, then I'd suggest looking towards Antarctica to see what just hit the Earth. :wink:

- Jay



LMAO, thank you for posting this... I wanted to say something about it, but I figured it would be obvious to everyone on here that it was an issue with that single satellite frame and not an incredible jump to the North.
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