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#7161 Postby dwg71 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:11 am

west side is dealing with dry air out in front and ne side is becoming flattend with hp ridge moving over. expect western turn in the next 12 hour. imo
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#7162 Postby Hurricanewatcher2007 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:14 am

This time we have a 82kt wind right in the eye wall instead of way out far away from the center like the last 82kt wind that was found!
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#7163 Postby KWT » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:15 am

I ddon't think it'll be turning that quickly, indeed right now its to the north of the forecast track with recon fixes confirming it.

Anyway convection still blowing up in the inner core, no doubt helping Ike to strengthen even if as others have pointed out, the western side really isn't all that impressive.
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#7164 Postby Derek Ortt » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:21 am

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... wg8wxc.GIF

its not dry air. The thing is under 20KT of westerly shear
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#7165 Postby HouTXmetro » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:22 am

Derek Ortt wrote:http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8wxc.GIF

its not dry air. The thing is under 20KT of westerly shear


Was this shear forecasted this early? Should really keep Ike in check.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#7166 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:25 am

He won't turn that quickly, thanks kwt, To be honest the only way ike can move right now is NW.
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#7167 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:27 am

Derek Ortt wrote:http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8wxc.GIF

its not dry air. The thing is under 20KT of westerly shear



Just like Gustav, the Gulf is not favorable for any RIC this year it seems. No surpize here.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#7168 Postby jinftl » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:28 am

Probably one reason the NHC never forecasted rapid intensification...just steady intensification. Currently intensifying very much in line with what the NHC has been forecasting.


HouTXmetro wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8wxc.GIF

its not dry air. The thing is under 20KT of westerly shear


Was this shear forecasted this early? Should really keep Ike in check.
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#7169 Postby KWT » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:28 am

Derek Ortt wrote:http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8wxc.GIF

its not dry air. The thing is under 20KT of westerly shear


Ah yeah from the big upper high, very interesting would explain why the western side just can't get going...thats going to peg back Ike a good deal though the inner core still holding well enough for now.
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#7170 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:30 am

It would not suprize me at all if the shear increased over the next few days. It would not suprize me if this never became a major hurricane again...But if it gets a chance it still could...
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#7171 Postby Derek Ortt » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:31 am

HouTXmetro wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8wxc.GIF

its not dry air. The thing is under 20KT of westerly shear


Was this shear forecasted this early? Should really keep Ike in check.


the magnitude was, but from the opposite direction
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#7172 Postby Hurricanewatcher2007 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:32 am

Shear however is decreasing ahead of Ike!

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#7173 Postby HouTXmetro » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:32 am

Anybody notice the stalled front draped over the Gulf Coast from Texas to Georgia? Just click on the front's Icon in this loop image. There is also a 1012MB Low along the Front near Austin, TX. Any idea if this front/low may interact with Ike?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/loop-avn.html
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#7174 Postby KWT » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:33 am

Matt, there is shear though the thing to note is the inner core still looks solid and pressure is deepening at steadily thus far according to recon, the shear is just enough to prevent the system really expanding on its western side. I still think the shear is low enough to allow this to get upto major status though whether or not it can get higher is now in doubt.
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#7175 Postby jinftl » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:36 am

That is what we all want to hear!!! I hope he never regains his former glory around the Turks & Caicos.

KWT wrote:Matt, there is shear though the thing to note is the inner core still looks solid and pressure is deepening at steadily thus far according to recon, the shear is just enough to prevent the system really expanding on its western side. I still think the shear is low enough to allow this to get upto major status though whether or not it can get higher is now in doubt.
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#7176 Postby KatDaddy » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:37 am

Thereis no doubt IKE is becoming better organized as very deep convection is exploding and wrapping around the center.
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#7177 Postby KWT » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:37 am

Hurricanewatcher2007, true but note shear is actually slightly increasing over Ike right now.

I also wonder whether thats why the eye vanished :?:

Saying all that the inner core still looks explosive, remember Hanna stregthened well under even higher shear thanks to the explosive convection in its inner core.
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#7178 Postby jinftl » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:38 am

Thank goodness for the shear....he could already be alot stronger!

KatDaddy wrote:Thereis no doubt IKE is becoming better organized as very deep convection is exploding and wrapping around the center.
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#7179 Postby KWT » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:40 am

Another little burst right over the NE part of the eyewall, Ike is putting up some decent deep convection even though there is very little convection on the western side still...as you'd expect with the shear there.
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#7180 Postby dwg71 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:43 am

seems to be holding steady as a 75kt cat 1, but I would not expect any intensification in its current conditions. not sure how long will last.
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