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#7241 Postby HouTXmetro » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:24 am

Cloud tops warming? Center Due West or South of West? just wondering.
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#7242 Postby KWT » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:26 am

Yeah Jasons the ECM and UKMO have been pretty consitant on a track a little to the NE of the GFS and given Ike is a tiny bit north of the NHC path right now its quite possible they are on the right track.
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#7243 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:28 am

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#7244 Postby inda_iwall » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:29 am

After looking at WV loop, I just do not see it moving west any time soon, the wweakness is nnw of it, and the western shear I would think would keep it from moving west as well, am I wrong, seems the steering currents are changing quicker than expected. I still think this is Houston to NOLA storm, remember they had this thing slamming into Sflorida at one point and it was 3 days out, they even thought it was going to Carolinas possibly, if I go back over where even Derek, who is pretty reliable, had it going fro forecast to forecast, even he had no clue where it was going past two days even.
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#7245 Postby KWT » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:32 am

Hurakan, that eye is where the warm spot has emerged on IR in the last couple of hours, does seem like a shallow eye is trying to develop again. The overall apperence is better then last night, at least it has a CDO now! :P
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#7246 Postby THead » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:35 am

Things change quick don't they? Yesterday I thought the forecast was for practically perfect upper air conditions, zero shear, in Ike's path? Hopefully it will keep him from getting too out of control, but I see the NHC intensity forecast hasn't changed much at all since last night, still have him at 105 kts in 48 hours.

48HR VT 12/0600Z 25.8N 92.0W 105 KT

Good luck everyone in the path, with your evacs and final preps, we'll be thinking of you all.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#7247 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:36 am

SFC CENTER VERTICAL WITH FLIGHT LEVEL CENTER
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#7248 Postby Hurricanewatcher2007 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:40 am

I think some of you are looking at the wrong place for the eye. Ike still has a very tiny eye. Its currently only 10miles wide. The big spot that has been warming is not where the eye is. that is dry air or just warmer cloud tops. The eye is now visible on the latest IR shot to the left of the big area that has been warming.
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#7249 Postby KWT » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:41 am

Which suggests delta whatever shear there is isn't currently effecting the inner core of Ike.

The other thing to note is a dropsonde just found a central pressure of 957mbs so pressure is still dropping away quite readily now and winds just seem to be starting to pick up a little now closer to the the eye...
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#7250 Postby apocalypt-flyer » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:45 am

Yes, 84 knots flight level. The 957 however are really quite impressive. The winds should catch up sooner rather than later.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#7251 Postby TreasureIslandFLGal » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:46 am

Ike is already having an affect on Tampa Bay area. We've just had a few showers and blustery conditions since yesterday afternoon, but the real telltale affect is the high tide this morning! It was about to breach the sea wall on my way into work at the Treasure Island Causeway, and it was still about an hour from high tide.

The rest of today's tides are lower. Tomorrow morning's high tide is progged to be even higher than this morning's, so with any luck, Ike will scoot quickly away. OF course, that won't happen, so I expect tomorrow's high tide to be worse than today's. We may see the walls breached and some minor beach flooding.

Again, the media hasn't told locals about the possibility of any beach flooding at all. Maybe its only 1-3 ft. tidal surge caused by the increased surf and wind, but that is a lot when you are only 4 ft. above mean sea level.

They have been speaking about a lot of increased surf and rip currents though. :wink:
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#7252 Postby Hurricanewatcher2007 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:49 am

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#7253 Postby KWT » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:49 am

Eye becoming more obvious on IR now and also convection deepening in the eastern eyewall...

Looks like finally the eyewall is starting to become more obvious on the sat imagery and thats being reflected in the recon flights starting to find higher winds at last near the center.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#7254 Postby linkerweather » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:58 am

TreasureIslandFLGal wrote:Ike is already having an affect on Tampa Bay area. We've just had a few showers and blustery conditions since yesterday afternoon, but the real telltale affect is the high tide this morning! It was about to breach the sea wall on my way into work at the Treasure Island Causeway, and it was still about an hour from high tide.

The rest of today's tides are lower. Tomorrow morning's high tide is progged to be even higher than this morning's, so with any luck, Ike will scoot quickly away. OF course, that won't happen, so I expect tomorrow's high tide to be worse than today's. We may see the walls breached and some minor beach flooding.

Again, the media hasn't told locals about the possibility of any beach flooding at all. Maybe its only 1-3 ft. tidal surge caused by the increased surf and wind, but that is a lot when you are only 4 ft. above mean sea level.

They have been speaking about a lot of increased surf and rip currents though. :wink:


Have you guys stopped watching 9? :(
I have been showing the water levels all morning at St Pete talking about 1 to 3 foot rise above the already high tide this morning.
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#7255 Postby attallaman » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:03 am

Is there a possibility that the ridge which is going to be steering Ike towards TX could weaken or retreat to the E putting the upper TX coast or W/LA under the gun or is the ridge locked in on cruise control to steer Ike towards central TX or lower TX?
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#7256 Postby HouTXmetro » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:03 am

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tr ... model.html

8 AM model updates.... GFS appears to be out to lunch. Might be affecting the HWRF and GFDL. Keep in mind the old Reliable EURO is close to the UKMET track.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#7257 Postby Texas Snowman » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:03 am

Is this the dreaded "fist" of intensification?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t4/avn-l.jpg
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#7258 Postby amanda » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:04 am

linkerweather wrote:
TreasureIslandFLGal wrote:Ike is already having an affect on Tampa Bay area. We've just had a few showers and blustery conditions since yesterday afternoon, but the real telltale affect is the high tide this morning! It was about to breach the sea wall on my way into work at the Treasure Island Causeway, and it was still about an hour from high tide.

The rest of today's tides are lower. Tomorrow morning's high tide is progged to be even higher than this morning's, so with any luck, Ike will scoot quickly away. OF course, that won't happen, so I expect tomorrow's high tide to be worse than today's. We may see the walls breached and some minor beach flooding.

Again, the media hasn't told locals about the possibility of any beach flooding at all. Maybe its only 1-3 ft. tidal surge caused by the increased surf and wind, but that is a lot when you are only 4 ft. above mean sea level.

They have been speaking about a lot of increased surf and rip currents though. :wink:


Have you guys stopped watching 9? :(
I have been showing the water levels all morning at St Pete talking about 1 to 3 foot rise above the already high tide this morning.


i still watch baynews9. i watched the tropical update at 8:49 this morning! :)
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#7259 Postby LizzardInFlorida » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:04 am

I've been watching Josh - you guys are doing a great job as usual. BN9 also just did a special segment from the beach on rip currents.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 1 - Discussion

#7260 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:07 am

inda_iwall wrote:After looking at WV loop, I just do not see it moving west any time soon, the wweakness is nnw of it, and the western shear I would think would keep it from moving west as well, am I wrong, seems the steering currents are changing quicker than expected. I still think this is Houston to NOLA storm, remember they had this thing slamming into Sflorida at one point and it was 3 days out, they even thought it was going to Carolinas possibly, if I go back over where even Derek, who is pretty reliable, had it going fro forecast to forecast, even he had no clue where it was going past two days even.


Please read the NHC discussion. Those guys sound pretty confident and they have a track record to back it up. What about you?
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