ATL GUSTAV: Tropical Depression - Discussion

#8801 Postby **BigB0882** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:13 pm

Fox News just put up a bulletin saying Gustav is tracking more West. If latest recon said movement went from 310 to 320 then where are they getting this information from? There is so much wrong information out there!

ConvergenceZone · #8802 Postby **ConvergenceZone** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:13 pm

Squarethecircle wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:I tried to mention earlier that this wasn't strengthening, but all I got was rolling eyes and disagreements.....It's possible that it can still landfall as a cat 3 though, although probably more at the low end range of a cat 3....

Possible, yes, only possible. It's certainly not likely. Especially because it's forecasted as such by the NHC, right?

People have been saying it's getting stronger since earlier this morning....Hmm, last time I checked, the winds were 115 mph. So it's weaker not stronger.....

#8803 Postby **HURAKAN** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:14 pm

NO:

Tampa:

I don't see the dry air.

rtd2 · #8804 Postby **rtd2** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:14 pm

deltadog03 wrote:The reason you are seeing the NNW or N or even NNE movement on the VDM's is because the LLC is pushing near the MLC....

Could this be the Tilting aftect due to sheer?

Innotech · #8805 Postby **Innotech** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:14 pm

good news. Maybe it wont scare my mom as much as I thought.
She is totally freaking out over it.

BlackNGoldRules · #8806 Postby **BlackNGoldRules** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:16 pm

BigB0882 wrote:Fox News just put up a bulletin saying Gustav is tracking more West. If latest recon said movement went from 310 to 320 then where are they getting this information from? There is so much wrong information out there!

I don't trust the cable news channels when it comes to weather. I think one of them still had the winds at 120mph last I checked.

PhillyWX · #8807 Postby **PhillyWX** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:17 pm

bahamaswx wrote:Doesn't look to me like he's going to get his act together. Strong cat2 landfall won't surprise me.

Look at a satellite loop of the last two hours and the falling pressure from recon.

This will come in as a reported 3 -- might be downgraded in post analysis but they will likely keep it at 115 if it remains a steady state until landfall.

rtd2 · #8808 Postby **rtd2** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:17 pm

BlackNGoldRules wrote:
BigB0882 wrote:Fox News just put up a bulletin saying Gustav is tracking more West. If latest recon said movement went from 310 to 320 then where are they getting this information from? There is so much wrong information out there!

I don't trust the cable news channels when it comes to weather. I think one of them still had the winds at 120mph last I checked.

MSNBC still showing 120mph nw @ 16

Sanibel · #8809 Postby **Sanibel** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:18 pm

good news. Maybe it wont scare my mom as much as I thought.
She is totally freaking out over it.

Innotech, this one is right for you on NHC path. Maybe a touch east. Get ready.

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#8810 Postby **BigB0882** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:18 pm

BlackNGoldRules wrote:
BigB0882 wrote:Fox News just put up a bulletin saying Gustav is tracking more West. If latest recon said movement went from 310 to 320 then where are they getting this information from? There is so much wrong information out there!

I don't trust the cable news channels when it comes to weather. I think one of them still had the winds at 120mph last I checked.

I wish they would realize how many people are relying on them for ACCURATE information. Fox News is notorious for making stupid mistakes like that but it isn't only them! Thank God for this place!

#8811 Postby **Mattie** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:18 pm

is there anyone that can direct me to a google earth with cities marked where the path is forecast?

Bunkertor · #8812 Postby **Bunkertor** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:19 pm

HURAKAN wrote:

I don't see any dry air intrusion.

I hate to ask questions about the projected impact time but this pic suggests it could be earlier than 8 AM CDT...

Right ?

BlackNGoldRules · #8813 Postby **BlackNGoldRules** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:19 pm

rtd2 wrote:
BlackNGoldRules wrote:
BigB0882 wrote:Fox News just put up a bulletin saying Gustav is tracking more West. If latest recon said movement went from 310 to 320 then where are they getting this information from? There is so much wrong information out there!

I don't trust the cable news channels when it comes to weather. I think one of them still had the winds at 120mph last I checked.

MSNBC still showing 120mph nw @ 16

There ya go! Just a little behind. :roll:

KWT · #8814 Postby **KWT** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:19 pm

rtd2 wrote:
Could this be the Tilting aftect due to sheer?

I think thats probably the most likely reason, if the LLC is matching up towards the MLC then it suggests the shear is easing off somewhat. I can see what deltadog is talking about as well.

Eye is closed up now again though its pretty obvious where it is.

superfly · #8815 Postby **superfly** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:19 pm

HURAKAN wrote:I don't see any dry air intrusion.

Right into the center

#8816 Postby **ColdFusion** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:20 pm

BigB0882 wrote:
BlackNGoldRules wrote:
BigB0882 wrote:Fox News just put up a bulletin saying Gustav is tracking more West. If latest recon said movement went from 310 to 320 then where are they getting this information from? There is so much wrong information out there!

I don't trust the cable news channels when it comes to weather. I think one of them still had the winds at 120mph last I checked.

I wish they would realize how many people are relying on them for ACCURATE information. Fox News is notorious for making stupid mistakes like that but it isn't only them! Thank God for this place!

Their website, foxnews.com, still shows as the main headline "TARGET: NEW ORLEANS"

#8817 Postby **dhweather** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:20 pm

carversteve wrote:This is totally unofficial!!! He looks much better than say 3 or 4 hours ago..May not be a rapid strengthing..but he may surprise!!...The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products

Annular by 00Z ?

:lol:

Tom8 · #8818 Postby **Tom8** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:20 pm

PhillyWX wrote:http://philadelphiaweather.blogspot.com/2008/08/gustav-moving-on-in.html

Satellite loop of Gustav in Gulf over last 2 1/2 hours (large loop)

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http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee42 ... AVLOOP.gif

flnative · #8819 Postby **flnative** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:22 pm

I have been watching Fox News and saw nothing of the sort. Where are you getting this info? All they are showing is the cone.

KWT · #8820 Postby **KWT** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:22 pm

superfly, that slight dry air (thats all it is) is all a function of the shear, its no doubt in my mind the main reason why its not really strengthening, look at the IR and you can see it looks like a sheared loop sided system, though obviously its still a very powerful hurricane.

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