ATL: Tropical Depression Fay

[CajunMama]

When you consider that it's for the safety of the children it's not a bad idea. If they wait until the morning to cancel you have 1000's of parents looking to find someone to watch their kids if the parent still is required to go to work. I know here that the daycares follow the public schools decision on weather days and may do the same thing in palm beach.

We've had flooding rains here and they let school off too late. We had to go pick up our kids at school that day and my kids were in a private school across town. I had to drive in water past my car door to get my kids.

[Evil Jeremy]

Jim Cantori is the only person on TV who is talking about this eastward motion, and admitting that he does not know what is going on.

is he on location somewhere?

Naples. He is going to be on after the next commercial break I believe.

[jhpigott]

Looking at radar, the little swirl that made it look like it was going east is not the center, the actual center looks to be where the NHC put it. Maybe...lol

Also, can a pro met comment on the radar not looking as good as earlier.

as tolakram just mentioned, KYW is reporting a north wind . . therefore the center is to the east of KYW which is east of the NHC line

[KWT]

Yeah Sanibel looks like the models have once again under-estimated the trough digging down just like so often, how many times do we see systems end up being slightly east of thier predicted landfall?

[CronkPSU]

i have no idea where the center is anymore off that radar loop

[Shockwave]

Jim Cantori is the only person on TV who is talking about this eastward motion, and admitting that he does not know what is going on.

is he on location somewhere?

He's in Naples, FL while Mike Sidell's was in KW and Abrams is somewhere on the east coast of FL.

[Air Force Met]

Just for some perspective, 21mb in two hours would be more (maybe the same) as what Wilma did at peak intensification. If this guy had any logic, he would know that 977 couldn't possibly be true.

EXACTLY!

Logic would dictate...but logic doesn't make ratings.

[jinftl]

http://www.wfor.com is CBS4

[quote=\\\"hurricanefloyd5\\\"]Greensky Do you have that live stream so I can hear reports from that area and one from fort meyers would be good too

just visit nbc6.net and cbs4.com

google searching for miami news stations would also help

local10.com might also be really good, since Max Mayfield works for them during hurricane weather coverage.[/quote]

[MiamiensisWx]

I think the NE turn indicated on radar is an illusion. The 12Z sounding from KMIA (Miami International Airport) indicates ridging remains in place at the low to mid levels, with westerly wind vectors aloft at the upper levels. Streamline analysis at H5-H85 does not support a long term NE turn as well. If you step back from the screen, you can clearly see that the center is nearly stationary on radar and has not displayed any significant NE movement.

Landfall near Naples, FL remains on track...

[D3m3NT3DVoRT3X]

ha! Bay News 9 talking about wobbles

[tolakram]

Why does this appear to be moving east? has the MLC been blown off the the east? We know Key West is still near the LLC, or a LLC.

[CourierPR]

False info gets put out for ratings.

If that could be proved, people need to be fired or maybe even charged, because it clearly could be dangerous.

If that could happen Fox News would be out of business.
On topic, note how Fay's circulation points northeast.

[D3m3NT3DVoRT3X]

I think the NE turn indicated on radar is an illusion. The 12Z sounding from KMIA (Miami International Airport indicates ridging remains in place at the low to mid levels, with westerly wind vectors aloft at the upper levels. Streamline analysis at H5-H85 does not support a long term NE turn as well. If you step back from the screen, you can clearly see that the center is nearly stationary on radar and has not displayed any significant NE movement.

Landfall near Naples, FL remains on track...

Maybe you can school these guys on Bay News 9 they are sayin going NE

[leaf blower]

Is there a new centre trying to form NW of the radar convection?

It would be right under the convection on this loop

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

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I think it is moving almost east-northeast right now. I believe it could hit the southern side of Florida and cross it back into the Atlantic. In which case it should turn more northward after 24 hours.

[MiamiensisWx]

I think the NE turn indicated on radar is an illusion. The 12Z sounding from KMIA (Miami International Airport) indicates ridging remains in place at the low to mid levels, with westerly wind vectors aloft at the upper levels. Streamline analysis at H5-H85 does not support a long term NE turn as well. If you step back from the screen, you can clearly see that the center is nearly stationary on radar and has not displayed any significant NE movement.

Landfall near Naples, FL remains on track...

H5-H85:

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8dlm2.html

H7-H85:

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8dlm1.html

I think it's time to inject some logic amid the "NE turn" and "977 mb" talk...

I must be the "lone voice" stating that the prospects of a SW Florida landfall near Naples remain good.

[AL Chili Pepper]

Looks like it's trying to reorganize and looks as if the center may loop up under that band to the NNW to me.

[jlauderdal]

Just for some perspective, 21mb in two hours would be more (maybe the same) as what Wilma did at peak intensification. If this guy had any logic, he would know that 977 couldn't possibly be true.

EXACTLY!

Logic would dictate...but logic doesn't make ratings.

phil ferro on miami seven has been awful the last two days

[RL3AO]

I think it's time to inject some logic amid the "NE turn" and "977 mb" talk...

Logic went out the window a long time ago.

[cpdaman]

False info gets put out for ratings.

If that could be proved, people need to be fired or maybe even charged, because it clearly could be dangerous.

some forms of media are considered "entertainment" and can say what they wish or lie , i remember this was fought for by fox news a few years back in court, and they won, but not sure how this translates into local news channels, but there might not be any liability there either