ATL GUSTAV: Tropical Depression - Discussion

[PTrackerLA]

It's odd, and must be mainly due to optical illusions so to speak, different satellite loops show different apparent directions. The NHC GOM loop you would swear it's heading for MS. But according to radar now and that loop just posted the storm looks very much on track. Just an interesting observation or maybe just the wine .

[terrapintransit]

OMG is this like the smallest eye on record?
check out this IR shot.... It's literally a pinpoint now.....Can that be real?


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/avn-l.jpg

Strange location for the eye wouldn't you say??

[ConvergenceZone]

This isn't a pinhole eye guys... the eye is about 40 nm wide.

Then it must not have an eye on IR satellite afterall, it must be just dry air, because the eye I"m seeing is a pinpoint.... Look at the link below and you tell me

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/avn-l.jpg

[HurricaneBill]

Wilma was 2 miles wide!

Wilma's eye was so small, the hurricane hunter plane couldn't fit in it!

(j/k)

[Ptarmigan]

I am noticing that Gustav is slow down a bit.

[Normandy]

Buoy 42364 about 115 miles due north of Gustav now reporting sustained winds of 68 kt. http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42364

That indicates that Gustav has a VERY large windfield. Surge will likely be devastating.

[HarlequinBoy]

When will we get some new recon?

[Just Joshing You]

I'm looking at radar, I don't need to look at visual. I have GRLevel 3 trained from KLIX Radar.

[fasterdisaster]

This isn't a pinhole eye guys... the eye is about 40 nm wide.

Then it must not have an eye on IR satellite afterall, it must be just dry air, because the eye I"m seeing is a pinpoint.... Look at the link below and you tell me

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/avn-l.jpg

It does have an eye, it's the big round orange thing, but the tiny blue speck is just a small area of slightly warmer cloud tops.

[HCSD]

Currently, I have winds out of the East at 4 (yes FOUR) mph here in Biloxi on my Davis Vantage Pro Station. The pressre is 1005.8 mb and falling slowly. Only had .35 of an inch of rain.

[ConvergenceZone]

OMG is this like the smallest eye on record?
check out this IR shot.... It's literally a pinpoint now.....Can that be real?


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/avn-l.jpg

I think the eye warmed a bit (filled in a bit) and elongated. So, that blue speck you see is probably just a function of the color-scale used.

Okay thanx WXGuy1....Then perhaps it isn't strengthening afterall....All this time and I thought that little blue speck was the eye....

[CYCLONE MIKE]

I'm looking at radar, I don't need to look at visual. I have GRLevel 3 trained from KLIX Radar.

How is that when compared to the NWS radar loops?

[ekal]

What appears to be a pinhole eye is actually an eye that is clouded over in all but a very small region, giving the illusion of a pinhole. Notice that the "pinhole" is not very symmetrical. Classic pinhole eyes are extremely circular and clear.

[Hurricane Cheese]

Anyone know about when we can expect the next vortex from the hurricane hunters?

[fasterdisaster]

OMG is this like the smallest eye on record?
check out this IR shot.... It's literally a pinpoint now.....Can that be real?


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/avn-l.jpg

I think the eye warmed a bit (filled in a bit) and elongated. So, that blue speck you see is probably just a function of the color-scale used.

Okay thanx WXGuy1....Then perhaps it isn't strengthening afterall....All this time and I thought that little blue speck was the eye....

Uh, it most definitely is strengthening. Just because it doesn't have a 10 foot wide eye doesn't mean it's weakening.

[Recurve]

Did anyone see Jim C. standing in front of a boat in Houma? There was a family with children that plan to ride out the storm on the boat. When asked why they were staying on the boat, the parents said because the kids wanted to. Jim looked so mad that he was about to cry. How can people be so stupid?

Sometimes I wonder about these people...

I hope this is just your sick imagination and joking (I believe you 100%, humor me)

But that entire family, including the children, deserve the Darwin Award for excellency and self ownage.

How do people like that even figure out how to have children?

Often times boats are safer than houses. If you don't live in a coastal area and haven't ever lived on a boat, don't judge.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

Anyone know about when we can expect the next vortex from the hurricane hunters?

I will guest

Pressure 952 millibars
Max Flight level winds 117 knots
SMRF 104 knots

[ZZ3Astro]

Plane is entering the eye from the south right now

[cpdaman]

Buoy 42364 about 115 miles due north of Gustav now reporting sustained winds of 68 kt. http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42364

That indicates that Gustav has a VERY large windfield. Surge will likely be devastating.

115 seems a bit far to me, more like 85-90 at that time (1215 edt) , but yes i concur that surge will be very high , likely right near jim cantore IMO, latest radar heading a bit to the left i hope takes a little stress off those levees. You know the insurance company's are sweating big time tonite

[rjgator]

Does anyone know what the the beam height of the radar does to the apparrent location of the eye? SAY its about 170 miles from NEW Orleans Radrad site and on a Base Reflectivity 248 NM image it is showing you the eye at about 27000 feet. When you use a program like GRLEVEL3 it always looks like it East of the Projected path. Is this the case or is it due to the angle of the beam?