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Re: Cat 3 Hurricane Gustav in Gulf of Mexico

#9821 Postby Evac3 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:59 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:This thing appears to be going west-northwest or even west. I would say 285-295 degree's right now...If it can make it another .5 of a degree westward it will earn its self another 3-4 hours over water as the shoreline slope northward after that.


Not meaning to be a wobble bandit, but when I woke up, looked at the satellite on tv, and saw what appeared to be it going west for a pretty good length of time, I FREAKED. It looked like a BIG shift west. It's getting to that point where it's too late to leave and I sure don't want west movement! And btw, what's the deal with the huge convection stuff on the west side? Y'all think that will last? I jumped right on here and pulled up satellite and radar and it still looks to be on point. I dunno.
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#9822 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:01 am

Also remember the NE quad - where the strongest winds are - are on land and out of reach of Recon. 92 kt FL was found in the SE quad, so you could expect winds a bit over 100 in the NE quad. That being said, I think it is a strong Cat 2 right now.
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#9823 Postby WxGuy1 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:02 am

RECON seems to indicate ~90 kts max sfc winds right now, and that's not much less than the reported max flight-level winds fro the past couple of hours. Remember, the ~955 mb (+/- 4 mb from the past 12 hours) pressure perturbation associated with Gustav is spread out over quite a large distance, a fact that can be inferred by the relatively large wind-field (trop storm winds out to 230 miles and hurricane force winds out to 70 miles from the center). If this were a smaller and more compact storm, 955 mb may be saying something, but it's not terribly low for a major hurricane that's as large as it is.

KLIX radar seems to indicate it's moving WNW, with an inner eyewall becoming more apparent over the past hour. It looks like the center of the storm is passing approximately 70 miles SW of New Orleans, and the closest approach to the city looks to be about 60 miles within the next hour or two, so the city shouldn't see any major problems with surge flooding. In fact, I don't think they will even see hurricane-force winds at ground level (certainly, the taller buildings will see strong winds!). The latest wind speed reading from a New Orleans-area METAR that I can find:
SPECI KNBG 011120Z AUTO 06038G58KT (New Orleans area)
SPECI KMSY 011114Z AUTO 04039G55KT (New Orleans area)

Other obs in SE LA:
METAR KPTN 011235Z AUTO 01024G36K
METAR KP92 011053Z AUTO 36019G28KT

Anemometers at many of the SE LA stations aren't reporting (including the NOLA ones). Regardless, I'm not sure NOLA will see >65 kt sustained winds at the surface (i.e. hurricane-force winds). My best-guess motion the past 100 minutes is 285-290.
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#9824 Postby KWT » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:03 am

Looks like landfall strength will be a s a cat-2 now NHC have just downgraded Gustav to a 2...stillthe strongest hurricane since Wilma to hit the USA.
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#9825 Postby PhillyWX » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:04 am

THE 800 AM CDT POSITION...28.9 N...90.4 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTHWEST NEAR 16 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...110 MPH.
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...957 MB.
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Re: Cat 3 Hurricane Gustav in Gulf of Mexico

#9826 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:06 am

I just heard on CNN that they were getting 105mph winds in Grand Isle.
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Re: Cat 3 Hurricane Gustav in Gulf of Mexico

#9827 Postby Frank P » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:07 am

Surge in Biloxi now approaching 10 feet... going over the sea wall at my house.. in my life time that has occurred 3 time.. Camille, Katrina and Gustav
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#9828 Postby KWT » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:07 am

Yep 95kts now, that looks to be the landfalling stregth, should only be a matter of time though the westerly jog is delaying landfall a smidge.

Also Grand Isle has had over 14 inches of rain, good job the backside is pretty dry!
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Re: Cat 3 Hurricane Gustav in Gulf of Mexico

#9829 Postby WxGuy1 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:08 am

Extremeweatherguy wrote:I just heard on CNN that they were getting 105mph winds in Grand Isle.


Sustained or gusts? I guess I just have a very hard time believing they are getting sustained winds that high.
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#9830 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:08 am

I think the high is building a little faster then thought, that is why it has turned more westward. We will see.
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#9831 Postby physicx07 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:09 am

KWT wrote:Yep 95kts now, that looks to be the landfalling stregth, should only be a matter of time though the westerly jog is delaying landfall a smidge.

Also Grand Isle has had over 14 inches of rain, good job the backside is pretty dry!


Wow, that 14 inches I imagine mostly fell in a very short amount of time.
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Re: Cat 3 Hurricane Gustav in Gulf of Mexico

#9832 Postby O Town » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:10 am

Frank P wrote:Surge in Biloxi now approaching 10 feet... going over the sea wall at my house.. in my life time that has occurred 3 time.. Camille, Katrina and Gustav

Thats for the update. At least you are prepared this time Frank.
Keep us posted.
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Re: Cat 3 Hurricane Gustav in Gulf of Mexico

#9833 Postby Shockwave » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:10 am

Extremeweatherguy wrote:I just heard on CNN that they were getting 105mph winds in Grand Isle.


I also heard, from TWC I think, that either Grand Isle, or just off the coast of Grand Isle saw 14" of rain in the past 24 hours! I find that report hard to believe.
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Re: Cat 3 Hurricane Gustav in Gulf of Mexico

#9834 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:10 am

WxGuy1 wrote:
Extremeweatherguy wrote:I just heard on CNN that they were getting 105mph winds in Grand Isle.


Sustained or gusts? I guess I just have a very hard time believing they are getting sustained winds that high.
Yeah, I would assume gusts. However, they did not specify when they reported it.
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Re: Cat 3 Hurricane Gustav in Gulf of Mexico

#9835 Postby Typhoon Hunter » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:11 am

Hey Hurakan.

So pleased to hear you're aunt is ok and I hope her house is in one piece! Cubans are pretty efficient at getting the power back on!
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#9836 Postby PhillyWX » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:11 am

130,000 w/o power in SE LA according to Fox 8 NO.
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Re: Cat 3 Hurricane Gustav in Gulf of Mexico

#9837 Postby Evac3 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:12 am

Oh goodness. Dr. Lyons just said it's starting to move west. How long is this gonna go west??
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#9838 Postby KWT » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:15 am

Well Evac3 I thinkits still going WNW but its certainly does seem to have gained somewhat more westerly motion then it had before and the eye doesn't really appear to be making much inroads inland, not a good situation for central and western LA.
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Re: Cat 3 Hurricane Gustav in Gulf of Mexico

#9839 Postby Sabanic » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:16 am

Evac3 wrote:Oh goodness. Dr. Lyons just said it's starting to move west. How long is this gonna go west??


Sure looks like it. Wow! Is old Gus wanting to stay over water a bit longer? This may not be good at all for TX
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#9840 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:19 am

Typhoon Hunter wrote:Hey Hurakan.

So pleased to hear you're aunt is ok and I hope her house is in one piece! Cubans are pretty efficient at getting the power back on!


Thanks. Furthermore, no one died. Cuba has one of the most efficient programs for evacuations of any third-world country. Of course, communism helps in this case. The government says move, and you better move. But still, a monster hurricane devastated the Isle of Youth and eastern Pinar del Río and no one died.
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