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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#9961 Postby bqhurricane » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:46 pm

The seawall is 17 feet tall (which means 17 foot above sea level). You can pile all the sand you want up against the wall, but it doesn't stop it from being 17 feet higher than the water.
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(Never mind the dumb fish survey. I don't know why image shack put it on there).
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#9962 Postby Txdivermom » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:46 pm

artist wrote:thanks. I have a cousin who has a house on Galveston near the Strand.



I would think that's the best location in Galveston as far as flooding. But still not good. I agree that the Sea Wall is more than 10 feet. Erosion has done in the beach there.

Also, whoever asked. The Galleria area will be fine.
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#9963 Postby CoCo2 » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:46 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:
TSmith274 wrote:I hope all of you doubting Ike's current strengthening and eyewall formation heard what Dr Steve Lyons just said. I posted it a few posts up.



Was it just his opinion or that of the NHC?


please stop your denial... if you act in this manner, it may cost you your life. Take this storm seriously, stormcenter



PLEASE take this storm seriously and get out. If you refuse to leave an area that may face the storm surge, do what they tell us in the New Orleans area, take a sharpie and write your social security number on your arm.
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#9964 Postby RL3AO » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:47 pm

VDM reported no eyewall. Looks like that inner core finally died.
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#9965 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:47 pm

10PM Advisory confirms that btw to the individual I was debating with. Storm at 26.3N


And I didn't even need a ruler! :wink:
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#9966 Postby wxman57 » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:47 pm

I'm quite encouraged by the steady pressure (vortex 956mb last few minutes) and FL winds all below 90 kts now. Just 24 hours to go and Ike still can't get its engine going. I'll be riding it out about 10 miles west of Galveston Bay at our office in southeast Houston.

As far as the surge into the Bay, just a tiny track change can mean the difference between 15-20 feet into the bay or tides below normal. As Ike is now, it wouldn't produce 25 feet in the bay if it hit just to the west, but 15-20 feet would cause a lot of damage. Not high enough to get to me at work, I'm pretty sure. They say we're outside the surge zone.

I'll be reporting in from work tomorrow after my day shift ends. Nothing else to do but watch the storm at that point.

New NHC advisory in - Cat 2 at landfall (95 kts). I think getting to Cat 3 looks to be a stretch at this point. At least I hope so. I'll have a hand-held anemometer with me at work tomorrow night.
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#9967 Postby CronkPSU » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:48 pm

no eyewall??? not even the outer one? well, i guess this thing isn't going to intensify anytime soon! right?
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#9968 Postby lrak » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:48 pm

Wx_Warrior wrote:000
WTNT34 KNHC 120241
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HURRICANE IKE ADVISORY NUMBER 44
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL092008
1000 PM CDT THU SEP 11 2008

FORECASTER KNABB/BERG



Thanks Wx Warrior

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42002

really low pressure? And the buoys up toward the SE coast of Tx are a lot higher? Is thing that huge?
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#9969 Postby dwg71 » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:48 pm

they backed off intensity now forecast to stay a cat 2.

track relatively same maybe a few miles east,,

hopefully it can swing another 50 miles..
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#9970 Postby tolakram » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:49 pm

latest mimic frame, yep no eyewall at all.

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So now the question is how long will it take to re-build one.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#9971 Postby terrapintransit » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:49 pm

amawea wrote:Dang Terrapin. You took that cork under! :ggreen:


Yea..well his comment was just screaming for a reply :slime:
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#9972 Postby mvtrucking » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:49 pm

It seems in the last couple of frames that Ike is starting to look ragged again. (Was looking better, but that seems to have subsided)
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#9973 Postby ConvergenceZone » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:50 pm

Lowpressure wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:yes, steve lyons is one of the very best tropical meteorologists in the business

Derek, it really appears as if Ike is in a strengthening phase with one eyewall and much more symetrical outflow. Recon does not yet seem to be reflecting this however. What are you seeing here?


low pressure, won't have to catch up with the pressure before the presssure starts to fall again?? I mean, I've heard people say that the pressure is that of a cat 3 storm already, so perhaps the winds may catch up and then if the storm continues to stregthen after that, then the pressure will begin to drop.
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#9974 Postby txag2005 » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:51 pm

RL3AO wrote:VDM reported no eyewall. Looks like that inner core finally died.


What does this mean in terms of intensification?
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#9975 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:51 pm

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Galveston looks like a ghost town.

Link: http://www.galveston.com/webcams/
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#9976 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:52 pm

txag2005 wrote:
RL3AO wrote:VDM reported no eyewall. Looks like that inner core finally died.


What does this mean in terms of intensification?


Most likely it means an eye wall replace cycle is underway.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#9977 Postby Javlin » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:52 pm

Just got in an that is one big arse storm there guys I hope you folks in Galveston are ready.The surge is going to be tough,sheezz.Be safe and be smart about it.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#9978 Postby lost cause » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:52 pm

Where I live on the island doesn't get a whole lotta talk: the north side. If Ike strikes anywhere from about mid-Galveston Island to Freeport, the surge will run up the Bay and wrap around the eastern side of the island and flood the backside badly. We're not protected from the Bay by anything, so should the surge come in the "back door," everything from Harborside to Broadway would be in serious danger of flooding.
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#9979 Postby CronkPSU » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:53 pm

so i guess Dr Lyons was wrong about the eyewall
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#9980 Postby WxGuy1 » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:53 pm

CronkPSU wrote:no eyewall??? not even the outer one? well, i guess this thing isn't going to intensify anytime soon! right?


Yeah, that may be a good or a bad thing. It may mean that the inner eyewall has 100% dissipated, which would clear the way for intensification. On the other hand, it may also mean that any inner core has been entirely weakened. It's tough for me to know how to read that (the lack of any eyewall). I'm still expecting a huge burst of convection near the center and an eye to pop out by mid-morning, but we'll see. The outflow has expanded quite a bit to the W, indicating that shear in the western Gulf is decreasing.
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