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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in Western Atlantic

#4361 Postby americanrebel » Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:31 am

What about the records she has set? Longest running system in July, furthest East a system has formed in July. Also reaching Cat. 3 in July. I know other storms have reached Cat. 3 in July but not many.
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#4362 Postby P.K. » Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:04 am

masaji79 wrote:Does anyone know if there has been a storm that's made impact on Iceland directly Tropical or Extratropical? Seems like this would be another Record for Hurricane Bertha. Certainly has been an interesting fish to watch.


Certainly as extratropical systems yes. However according to the BT this has some way to go to be the most northerly a tropical system has gone.

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#4363 Postby Chacor » Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:36 am

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The question is, where is the centre? If it's near 50N 37W it could still be alive. Anywhere else and that would mean no convection over the centre, and an XTT storm.
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#4364 Postby Cryomaniac » Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:38 am

I think the next advisory will be the last.

If 94L is named before then, we will have 3 active storms.
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#4365 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:08 am

Cryomaniac wrote:I think the next advisory will be the last.

If 94L is named before then, we will have 3 active storms.



Probably not to be then, because I think they'll wait on recon to name Dolly. It has looked good on satellite before and not had a circulation.

The wave as big as Alaska probably doesn't get a name before Cristobal goes ET.


Still, Bertha for the majority of the month, and possibly 4 named storms through the month of July, this could be a year like 2005, except, hopefully, no devastating hurricane strike on a major coastal city, and I'd assume no use of the Greek alphabet to name storms.
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#4366 Postby Chacor » Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:26 am

Chacor wrote:Image

The question is, where is the centre? If it's near 50N 37W it could still be alive. Anywhere else and that would mean no convection over the centre, and an XTT storm.


Good call!

AL, 02, 2008072012, , BEST, 0, 500N, 370W, 55, 987, TS, 34, NEQ, 150, 200, 100, 150, 1012, 250, 50, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, BERTHA, D,
AL, 02, 2008072012, , BEST, 0, 500N, 370W, 55, 987, TS, 50, NEQ, 50, 100, 50, 50, 1012, 250, 50, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, BERTHA, D,

They also ran SHIPS, which suggests they're keeping Bertha alive.
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in Western Atlantic

#4367 Postby bob rulz » Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:43 am

americanrebel wrote:What about the records she has set? Longest running system in July, furthest East a system has formed in July. Also reaching Cat. 3 in July. I know other storms have reached Cat. 3 in July but not many.


You don't retire tropical cyclone names because of how long-lasting or record-breaking they are, unless they break the record for number of people killed.
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in Western Atlantic

#4368 Postby WmE » Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:45 am

bob rulz wrote:
americanrebel wrote:What about the records she has set? Longest running system in July, furthest East a system has formed in July. Also reaching Cat. 3 in July. I know other storms have reached Cat. 3 in July but not many.


You don't retire tropical cyclone names because of how long-lasting or record-breaking they are, unless they break the record for number of people killed.


Well that's not exactly true. Ioke was retired, but didn't kill anybody.
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#4369 Postby Chacor » Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:48 am

He probably meant Atlantic cyclones. Case in point: Vince was not retired.
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in Western Atlantic

#4370 Postby bob rulz » Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:49 am

WmE wrote:
bob rulz wrote:
americanrebel wrote:What about the records she has set? Longest running system in July, furthest East a system has formed in July. Also reaching Cat. 3 in July. I know other storms have reached Cat. 3 in July but not many.


You don't retire tropical cyclone names because of how long-lasting or record-breaking they are, unless they break the record for number of people killed.


Well that's not exactly true. Ioke was retired, but didn't kill anybody.


To be fair, that's the Central Pacific. They don't get a chance to retire a name very often.
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in Western Atlantic

#4371 Postby americanrebel » Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:14 am

Well Bertha I know is responsible for at least one death in New Jersey (drowning by rip tide), haven't heard of any others, but there could be others.
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in Western Atlantic

#4372 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:38 am

americanrebel wrote:Well Bertha I know is responsible for at least one death in New Jersey (drowning by rip tide), haven't heard of any others, but there could be others.


There were 3 deaths, all off of New Jersey from rip currents.
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#4373 Postby Chacor » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:01 am

THIS IS THE LAST FORECAST/ADVISORY ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE
CENTER ON THIS SYSTEM. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THIS SYSTEM CAN BE
FOUND IN HIGH SEAS FORECASTS ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER
SERVICE...UNDER AWIPS HEADER NFDHSFAT1 AND WMO HEADER FZNT01 KWBC.

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#4374 Postby RL3AO » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:02 am

70 advisories. It was a great run.
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in Western Atlantic

#4375 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:02 am

It made many records,and thanks to her,the 2008 ACE is very high.
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in Western Atlantic

#4376 Postby Brent » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:03 am

:cry: :cry: :cry:

We'll miss you Bertha.
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#4377 Postby DanKellFla » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:03 am

I was wrong... it made it to 70. But, this HAS to be it.



000
WTNT42 KNHC 201502
TCDAT2
TROPICAL STORM BERTHA DISCUSSION NUMBER 70
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL022008
1100 AM EDT SUN JUL 20 2008

BERTHA IS RAPIDLY LOSING TROPICAL CHARACTERISTICS. THE WIND FIELD
HAS BECOME EXTREMELY ASYMMETRIC AND THE CONVECTION IS DIMINISHING
NEAR THE CENTER. THUS BERTHA IS BEING DECLARED EXTRATROPICAL AND
THIS IS THE LAST ADVISORY. SHIP ABCC4 AND QUIKSCAT SUGGEST THE
MAXIMUM WINDS REMAIN NEAR 60 KT. A SLOW WEAKENING IS FORECAST IN
LINE WITH GLOBAL MODEL GUIDANCE. THE TRACK FORECAST IS IN GOOD
AGREEMENT WITH THE MODEL CONSENSUS AND SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS
ADVISORY.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 20/1500Z 51.3N 35.7W 60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
12HR VT 21/0000Z 55.2N 31.2W 55 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
24HR VT 21/1200Z 61.0N 24.3W 50 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
36HR VT 22/0000Z...DISSIPATED

$$
FORECASTER KNABB/BLAKE
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#4378 Postby WmE » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:04 am

What a crazy storm she has been.
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#4379 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:04 am

DanKellFla wrote:No 11 AM update???? Is that it for Bertha?

Yes...

It's completed extratropical transition.
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in Western Atlantic

#4380 Postby LAwxrgal » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:06 am

Bye Bye Bertha :lol: See ya in 2014.
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