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H Dolly Recon Discussion Thread

#1 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:30 am

Lets see if NHC sends or not the plane down to 94L later this morning.Discussions about the data from the plane will be posted here.

If they go,it will depart around 11:45 AM EDT.

ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. SUSPECT AREA...(LESSER ANTILLES)
FLIGHT ONE...TEAL 70
A. 16/1800Z
B. AFXXX 01AAA INVEST
C. 16/1545Z
D. 13.5N 56.0W
E. 16/1700Z TO 16/2200Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT
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Re: 94L Recon Discussion Thread

#2 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:47 am

They will fly into 94L.
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#3 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:51 am

I have class later today but will keep in touch. Very interesting.
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Re: 94L Recon Discussion Thread

#4 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:51 am

Thunder44,will you have a contest today? The question for the contest would be if recon finds or not a closed circulation.
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#5 Postby Gustywind » Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:51 am

Hope they won't find any circulation Cycloneye:eek: :uarrow: :roll:
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Re: Invest 94L Recon Discussion Thread

#6 Postby wzrgirl1 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:11 am

Is this pretty typical to fly into an invest? Is it because it is so close to land?
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Re: Invest 94L Recon Discussion Thread

#7 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:14 am

wzrgirl1 wrote:Is this pretty typical to fly into an invest? Is it because it is so close to land?


They will fly into most invests that threaten land that could be near depression/storm stregth.
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Re: Invest 94L Recon Discussion Thread

#8 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:26 am

pojo,there is a discussion thread already. :)
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Re: Invest 94L Recon Discussion Thread

#9 Postby pojo » Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:31 am

cycloneye wrote:pojo,there is a discussion thread already. :)



how did I not see this thread......... my bad
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Re: Invest 94L Recon Discussion Thread

#10 Postby pojo » Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:38 am

cat5canes77 wrote:183630 2928N 06337W 6967 03103 0006 +084 +070 314049 049 044 002 00

is this the direction column?

no that is the winds.

winds 314* at 049kts
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#11 Postby pojo » Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:40 am

Here is the numbers and what they mean

061230 1658N 08215W 7000 03000 9000 +108 +108 352159 161 145 100 00
Taking the last line:

1) 06:12:30 GMT
2) 16.58N
3) 82.15W
4) Static pressure in airplane of 700.0hPa
5) Geopotential height of 3000m
6) 30 second surface pressure mean extrapolation of 900.0hPa
7) 30 second mean air temperature of +10.8C
8) 30 second mean dew point of +10.8C
9) 30 second mean wind direction of 352 degrees
10) 30 second mean wind of 159kts
11) Ten second gust of 161kts
12) Peak ten second SFMR surface wind of 145kts
13) SFMR precipitation rate of 100mmh[sup]-1[/sup]
14) Suspect data codes are as follows:

First column indicates status of positional variables as follows:
0 All parameters of nominal accuracy
1 Lat/lon questionable
2 Geopotential altitude or static pressure questionable
3 Both lat/lon and GA/PS questionable

Second column indicates status of meteorological variables as follows:
0 All parameters of nominal accuracy
1 T or TD questionable
2 Flight-level winds questionable
3 SFMR parameter(s) questionable
4 T/TD and FL winds questionable
5 T/TD and SFMR questionable
6 FL winds and SFMR questionable
9 T/TD, FL winds, and SFMR questionable
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#12 Postby HarlequinBoy » Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:42 am

Is someone going to do those maps this time?
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Re: Invest 94L Recon Discussion Thread

#13 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:14 am

pojo,do you have information about if the plane took of or not as no obs haved been released yet?
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#14 Postby Thunder44 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:16 am

HarlequinBoy wrote:Is someone going to do those maps this time?


I might do them when they start descending.

By the way, no recon contest for invests, because I don't know if they will report back a VDM. The contests will start if this develops to a TD.
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Re: Invest 94L Recon Discussion Thread

#15 Postby pojo » Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:25 am

cycloneye wrote:pojo,do you have information about if the plane took of or not as no obs haved been released yet?


no idea... I'm back in Biloxi.
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Re: Invest 94L Recon Discussion Thread

#16 Postby Thunder44 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:34 am

They just sent back an ob.

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URNT11 KNHC 161622
97779 16164 40170 63900 57900 99005 58851 /4589
RMK AF304 01AAA INVEST OB 01
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Re: Invest 94L Recon Discussion Thread

#17 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:34 am

Mission has started.
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Re: Invest 94L Recon Discussion Thread

#18 Postby jon_m » Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:45 am

Thunder44 wrote:They just sent back an ob.

000
URNT11 KNHC 161622
97779 16164 40170 63900 57900 99005 58851 /4589
RMK AF304 01AAA INVEST OB 01



Translated into English:

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Product: Air Force Tropical RECCO Message (URNT11 KNHC)
Transmitted: 16th day of the month at 16:22Z
Aircraft: Air Force Aircraft (Last 3 digits of the tail number are 304)
Mission Purpose: Investigate first suspect area (in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Number: 1
Observation Number: 01

Mandatory Data...

Observation Time: Wednesday, 16:16Z
Radar Capability: Yes
Aircraft Altitude: Below 10,000 meters
Coordinates: 17.0N 63.9W (View map)
Location: 173 miles (278 km) to the SE (124°) from San Juan, Puerto Rico (USA).
Turbulence: None
Conditions Along Flight Route: In the clear
Pressure Altitude: 5,790 meters
Flight Level Wind: 5 knots (~ 5.8 mph) (Bearing was unavailable.)
- The above is a spot wind.
- Winds were obtained using doppler radar or inertial systems.
Flight Level Temperature: -8°C
Flight Level Dew Point: -35°C
Weather (within 30 nautical miles): Scattered clouds (trace to 4/8 cloud coverage)
500 mb Surface Altitude: 5,890 geopotential meters
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#19 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:10 pm

hey where are you geting the minobs's from.. my page i normally use is not working..
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Re: Invest 94L Recon Discussion Thread

#20 Postby drezee » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:19 pm

171400 1412N 06004W 7366 02733 0120 +108 -430 073037 038 999 999 03

SMFR winds are 38 kts!
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