ATL JOSEPHINE: Remnants - Discussion

[gatorcane]

convection continues to develop but nothing even remotely organized at the surface just yet..

it wouldn't surprise me if the NAVY designates this as the next invest area sometime in the next 24 hours.

I see some decent shear just to its west blowing from SW to NE....

[HurricaneFreak]

Hmm this reminds me of Katrina when it dissapated in the mid Atlantic then convection formed again over Puerto Rico then became a tropical storm in the Bahamas in the last second even a hurricane so maybe the NHC could put a Code yellow(Low probability of tropical formation)tonight?
http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/huvsloop.html
In this link it will show you the Atlantic loop and on the right you can see some flare up in rain, and convection even!Look at the blob cloud and you can see the outer part of the blob kinda of forming bands or strait clouds that indicates there is convection.

[AJC3]

If it does redevelop, would it be Josephine? Did it keep a circulation?

The closed surface ciruclation is gone. Its now an open trough. Not sure what the NHC would do with this.

Even though, J's remnant low has opened up into a trough, as long as the surface feature maintains continuity (i.e doesn't completely dissipate), then in the unlikely event it spun back up, it would still be called Josephine.

[Sanibel]

It could wind up a center if it flares tonight and stays far enough from Ike's outflow. That convection flare will let you know.

[Blown Away]

Josephine are you still in there?

[gatorcane]

If it does redevelop, would it be Josephine? Did it keep a circulation?

The closed surface ciruclation is gone. Its now an open trough. Not sure what the NHC would do with this.

Even though, J's remnant low has opened up into a trough, as long as the surface feature maintains continuity (i.e doesn't completely dissipate), then in the unlikely event it spun back up, it would still be called Josephine.

I'm thinking if something develops it probably won't be from Josephine's remnants but rather something may form over time from a persistent trough of low pressure in that region....

[terrapintransit]

Josephine are you still in there?

She's a fighter for sure!!

[Tropics Guy]

Would think that the NHC at least MENTIONS this (area NE of PR) in their next TWO, maybe a code yellow?

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/huirloop.html

TG

[cycloneye]

From the San Juan NWS AFD:

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JUAN PR
356 PM AST WED SEP 10 2008

.SYNOPSIS...HIGH PRESSURE ACROSS THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC WILL STRETCH
ACROSS THE LOCAL AREA TODAY. A BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE...WHICH
IS THE REMNANTS OF TROPICAL DEPRESSION JOSEPHINE...IS EXPECTED TO
MOVE ACROSS THE LOCAL AREA ON THURSDAY...ACCOMPANIED BY ACTIVE
WEATHER.

&&

DISCUSSION

A TROPICAL WAVE KNOWN BEFORE AS JOSEPHINE HAS BECOME LITTLE MORE
ORGANIZE AS THE CONVECTION ACTIVITY HAVE INCREASE ACROSS THE
NORTHER PORTION OF THE AXIS. THESE SYSTEM ALSO HAVE DEVELOPED SOME
CONVECTION SOUTH OF THE AREA...INCREASING THE SHOWER AND
THUNDERSTORM COVERAGE ACROSS THE LOCAL FORECAST AREA THROUGH
FRIDAY MORNING

[HURAKAN]

Anything of this nature, moving towards the Bahamas at this time of the year certainly bears watching.

[terrapintransit]

Anything of this nature, moving towards the Bahamas at this time of the year certainly bears watching.

This season is just full of surprises..........

[HURAKAN]

Still popping. Tomorrow if convection continues we need to keep an eye on falling pressures.

[HURAKAN]

Shear not much of a problem in 48 hours.

[Sihara]

Hm, ick, I thought this was farther north

Hurakan, is there somewhere on the site or elsewhere that I could learn more about understanding shear maps?

[Sanibel]

That's the set up. Josephine lays low until Ike gets into Texas and then blooms right in front of Florida or maybe in the Straits.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

That's the set up. Josephine lays low until Ike gets into Texas and then blooms right in front of Florida or maybe in the Straits.

Not one storm has completely advoided land this season as a storm until Josephine. I'm thinking he is feeling lefted out.

[Sihara]

Not one storm has completely advoided land this season as a storm until Josephine. I'm thinking he is feeling lefted out.

Not to mention feeling miffed at being called "he."



But the point is very good - we haven't had any fishies yet this year. Will she stay far enough from Ike's outflow to develop?

[bob rulz]

Still no mention in the TWO.

[jinftl]

Would the ridge push this wsw...south of fl...like ike?

[OuterBanker]

First major Bertha was a fish.