ATL INVEST 94L: Discussion

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Re: ATL INVEST 94L: Discussion

#321 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:49 pm

Best Track update at 00:00 UTC mantains 94L as Extratropical.

AL, 94, 2008092600, , BEST, 0, 334N, 782W, 55, 998, EX
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Re: ATL INVEST 94L: Discussion

#322 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:58 pm

VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL942008
A. 26/00:29:30Z
B. 33 deg 15 min N
078 deg 17 min W
C. 850 mb 1331 m
D. 51 kt
E. 352 deg 25 nm
F. 080 deg 58 kt
G. 352 deg 25 nm
H. 991 mb
I. 12 C / 1511 m
J. 19 C / 1525 m
K. 12 C / NA

L. NA
M. NA
N. 12345 / 8
O. 0.02 / 1 nm
P. AF303 03GGA LOW OB 09
MAX FL WIND 58 KT NE QUAD 23:32:50Z

19C at 1525 m?
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Re: ATL INVEST 94L: Discussion

#323 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:09 pm

7c temperature difference, this is not just subtropical but full on tropical. I'm angry at what I'm seeing.
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#324 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:11 pm

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Re: ATL INVEST 94L: Discussion

#325 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:11 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:7c temperature difference, this is not just subtropical but full on tropical. I'm angry at what I'm seeing.


I agree, but given the circumstances it is not worth naming IMO.
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Re: ATL INVEST 94L: Discussion

#326 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:12 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:7c temperature difference, this is not just subtropical but full on tropical. I'm angry at what I'm seeing.


I agree, but given the circumstances it is not worth naming IMO.



I think every system should be named or at least noted.
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Re: ATL INVEST 94L: Discussion

#327 Postby Stormavoider » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:18 pm

Does this prove it is warm core?
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Re: ATL INVEST 94L: Discussion

#328 Postby Thunder44 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:23 pm

Stormavoider wrote:Does this prove it is warm core?


We know it's warm core already. The problem is that still appears to be associated with a coastal warm front that has moved inland across the Carolinas, based on surface obs:

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/SFCSE/sfcloop.html
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Re: ATL INVEST 94L: Discussion

#329 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:25 pm

CLKN7 - MARITIME-buoy
Friday Sep. 26 - 0:00 UTC
Air Temperature: 77°F
Dewpoint: 70°F
Wind: 25 mph
gusting to 28
Pressure: 1007.2 mb

41035 - MARITIME-buoy
Friday Sep. 26 - 0:50 UTC
Air Temperature: 76°F
Dewpoint: 71°F
Wind: E at 25 mph
gusting to 31
Pressure: 1005.1 mb
Wave Height: 8 ft
Sea Surface Temp: 75°F

41036 - MARITIME-buoy
Friday Sep. 26 - 0:50 UTC
Air Temperature: 78°F
Dewpoint: 71°F
Wind: ESE at 36 mph
gusting to 47
Pressure: 1004 mb
Wave Height: 15 ft
Sea Surface Temp: 78.1°F

41013 - MARITIME-buoy
Friday Sep. 26 - 0:50 UTC
Air Temperature: 75°F
Wind: SSE at 42 mph
gusting to 54
Pressure: 995.3 mb
Wave Height: 13 ft
Sea Surface Temp: 77.2°F
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#330 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:35 pm

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#331 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:38 pm

Looks like the No-Name Storm is about to make landfall.
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#332 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:50 pm

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#333 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:51 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:Looks like the No-Name Storm is about to make landfall.



Sad :cry: Let me just say I've seen many a system with a "weak" frontal like system to the north northeast of the LLC. It is amazing how a purely warm core system can be over looked like this in the record. I don't agree with it at all.
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Re: ATL INVEST 94L: Discussion

#334 Postby SCHawkFan » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:58 pm

Funny, weather tonight in Myrtle Beach is much worse than it was a few weeks ago when Hannah blew through. I just hope my Dish Network signal stays strong for a few more hours.
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Re: ATL INVEST 94L: Discussion

#335 Postby tolakram » Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:01 pm

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Re: ATL INVEST 94L: Discussion

#336 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:19 pm

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#337 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:24 pm

Still some deep convection firing near the center.
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Re: ATL INVEST 94L: Discussion

#338 Postby george_r_1961 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:27 pm

SCHawkFan wrote:Funny, weather tonight in Myrtle Beach is much worse than it was a few weeks ago when Hannah blew through. I just hope my Dish Network signal stays strong for a few more hours.



Ditto up here in VA. We have had heavy squalls rotating in off the ocean all day. Similar to what you would expect from an approaching tropical system.

And im not liking the looks of some of these cells. Some weak rotation evident and I wouldnt be surprised to see a tornado or two over SE VA overnight.
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#339 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:30 pm

URNT12 KNHC 260225
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL942008
A. 26/02:15:00Z
B. 33 deg 17 min N
078 deg 35 min W
C. 850 mb 1351 m
D. 39 kt
E. 119 deg 37 nm
F. 194 deg 47 kt
G. 115 deg 23 nm
H. EXTRAP 993 mb
I. 14 C / 1521 m
J. 18 C / 1522 m
K. 13 C / NA

L. NA
M. NA
N. 12345 / 8
O. 0.02 / 1 nm
P. AF303 03GGA LOW OB 13
MAX FL WIND 58 KT NE QUAD 23:32:50Z
SLP EXTRAP FROM 850 MB
MAX FL TEMP 18 C 114 / 7 NM FROM FL CNTR

Once again, 18C at 1522 m.
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#340 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:34 pm

HURAKAN wrote:URNT12 KNHC 260225
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL942008
A. 26/02:15:00Z
B. 33 deg 17 min N
078 deg 35 min W
C. 850 mb 1351 m
D. 39 kt
E. 119 deg 37 nm
F. 194 deg 47 kt
G. 115 deg 23 nm
H. EXTRAP 993 mb
I. 14 C / 1521 m
J. 18 C / 1522 m
K. 13 C / NA

L. NA
M. NA
N. 12345 / 8
O. 0.02 / 1 nm
P. AF303 03GGA LOW OB 13
MAX FL WIND 58 KT NE QUAD 23:32:50Z
SLP EXTRAP FROM 850 MB
MAX FL TEMP 18 C 114 / 7 NM FROM FL CNTR

Once again, 18C at 1522 m.



Why bother when they already made up their mind that no evidence the airplane could find would change their minds.?
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