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#1761 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:24 pm

I noticed Wxman57 has not been around less as of late -- I would guess that means he is consulting with his clients in the Leewards on future 94L.

If a system is not going to threaten any of his clients, usually see alot more posts from him about why it will recurve and not impact anybody.
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#1762 Postby southerngale » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:24 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:
southerngale wrote:It's disappeared from the map above... that has always meant something was either dropped or is being upgraded/downgraded, etc. It's still showing Invest on NRL, however.


I doubt it would be downgraded when at code red and convection like this taking place.


I know. I was naming the reasons something temporarily disappears from the map. I think it's more likely it's being upgraded, BUT nothing on NRL, so maybe not.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#1763 Postby storms NC » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:24 pm

Sanibel wrote:The models should grab it better now.


Total guess: Carolinas.

:eek: :eek: :eek: hush your mouth. or I will wash it out with soap. :double:
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#1764 Postby deltadog03 » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:25 pm

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Atomic 94L??
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#1765 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:26 pm

Not if it deepens enough, should pass north of Hispaniola, maybe just skirt it? Who knows, I need to check out the H5 trends to be sure. The H5 ridging is the key here.
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#1766 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:27 pm

southerngale wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:
southerngale wrote:It's disappeared from the map above... that has always meant something was either dropped or is being upgraded/downgraded, etc. It's still showing Invest on NRL, however.


I doubt it would be downgraded when at code red and convection like this taking place.


I know. I was naming the reasons something temporarily disappears from the map. I think it's more likely it's being upgraded, BUT nothing on NRL, so maybe not.


there is nothing on the ATCF
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#1767 Postby 'CaneFreak » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:27 pm

deltadog03 wrote:Image


Atomic 94L??


Did you see my comment about the fragmenting upper low on the last page? I was especially curious as to your opinion on what implications it might have...go back to the last page if you did not see it...thanks...
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#1768 Postby Evil Jeremy » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:29 pm

gatorcane wrote:I noticed Wxman57 has not been around less as of late -- I would guess that means he is consulting with his clients in the Leewards on future 94L.

If a system is not going to threaten any of his clients, usually see alot more posts from him about why it will recurve and not impact anybody.


wxman57 wrote:Well, I think that the NHC will wait until morning to take a good look at visible imagery before doing anything, which means a full night's sleep for me. Off to bed.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#1769 Postby Sanibel » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:29 pm

Unless there's a shear blast just ahead I assume this persistent improvement speaks for itself.

I also saw the ULL ahead eroding this afternoon.

We haven't seen such good IR and so centered yet this year.

This opens up increased possibilities considering the history of the track ahead at this time of year.

Never the less 2009 has underperformed so far.


I guessed Carolinas because the disturbance has jumped considerably where it could get caught in the CMC recurve.
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#1770 Postby BensonTCwatcher » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:30 pm

Although not sure if the center has or is reforming N just yet, the anticyclone aloft combined with the ULL breaking down the SW of the system has helped a lot for development. The anti-cyclone was seen this moring, but not really the ULL. GFS sure didn't catch it.

EDIT: although the wv loop hinted
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#1771 Postby JTD » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:31 pm

This system is clearly ramping up this evening in spectacular fashion. I am very impressed. Now we just have to wait and see if we can get a distinct closed circulation and if this can sustain itself. Does anyone think that this has a chance to rapidly strengthen over night? It's satelite appearance tonight is amazing. Of course, we've all seen nice blobs that amount to nothing before but I doubt it this time.

Off to the races.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#1772 Postby rrm » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:31 pm

does this look like it possibly could track into the gom?
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#1773 Postby 'CaneFreak » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:32 pm

Sanibel wrote:Unless there's a shear blast just ahead I assume this persistent improvement speaks for itself.

I also saw the ULL ahead eroding this afternoon.

We haven't seen such good IR and so centered yet this year.

This opens up increased possibilities considering the history of the track ahead at this time of year.

Never the less 2009 has underperformed so far.


I guessed Carolinas because the disturbance has jumped considerably where it could get caught in the CMC recurve.


Underperformed? Why because we have not had a FL threat? :wink: :wink: :wink:
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#1774 Postby jinftl » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:34 pm

Latest estimate of center shown in black.....as of now, buoy reports do not suggest the center is reforming north under the convection. If that doesn't happen overnight, this burst will wane and we will be back to the 94L we know.

Even if this burst of convection fades, i still wouldn't write this system off. Most models don't show much in the wave of increased intensity for another 24 hours or so....and even then, a slow ramp-up.

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deltadog03 wrote:

Atomic 94L??
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#1775 Postby jinftl » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:36 pm

You asked the same exact question 24 hours ago....it is still way way way too early to know. And no, we won't know by tomorrow night.

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rrm wrote:does this look like it possibly could track into the gom?
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#1776 Postby lonelymike » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:37 pm

gatorcane wrote:I noticed Wxman57 has not been around less as of late -- I would guess that means he is consulting with his clients in the Leewards on future 94L.

If a system is not going to threaten any of his clients, usually see alot more posts from him about why it will recurve and not impact anybody.

Uh....no he said he was going to bed. Where do you come up with these statements? :eek:
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#1777 Postby BensonTCwatcher » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:37 pm

well not to get too wrapped up, if the convection collapses the outflow at the surface will kill it.
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#1778 Postby storms NC » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:38 pm

I lived in Ft Myers Fl from 1969 to 1992 Not one hurricane had hit there. I move up here for the summers and get hit by 6-7 of them. You would have thought I would have been thought more in Fla. But no more here in NC.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#1779 Postby Sanibel » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:38 pm

The black dot isn't at 54W.


The d-max rhythm for this is at around 3-5am.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#1780 Postby lonelymike » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:38 pm

jinftl wrote:You asked the same exact question 24 hours ago....it is still way way way too early to know. And no, we won't know by tomorrow night.

:wink:

rrm wrote:does this look like it possibly could track into the gom?



Ask it again tomorrow nite and keep on asking. :) I'm sure jinftl will not mind and is quite happy to keep on answering. :cheesy:
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