ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#1861 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:21 pm

MWatkins wrote:I have no doubt, at all, that this is a depression and probably Erika already.

Waves don't produce circular, -80 degree cloud tops like this. Even if it lasts 24 hours (and I could be eating crow if it doesn't) if it smells like a TC, looks like a TC and produces cold cloud tops like this...

Maybe they are waiting to see if the tops get sheared out. It still looks a lot like Irene did when it passed over SFL in 99, even if the thunderstorms are displaced to the east of the LLC.

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Alberto from 2006 comes to mind.. recon went out and found 70 mph winds when it looked like this.. oh and i agree..

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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L - Computer Models

#1862 Postby Bocadude85 » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:22 pm

Not that it means much but 94L should move into the Hebert Box

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Hebert_boxes.jpg
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#1863 Postby deltadog03 » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:27 pm

Starting to see some good fanning out on the W quad...tells me shear is really starting to lessen.

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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#1864 Postby 'CaneFreak » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:28 pm

MWatkins wrote:I have no doubt, at all, that this is a depression and probably Erika already.

Waves don't produce circular, -80 degree cloud tops like this. Even if it lasts 24 hours (and I could be eating crow if it doesn't) if it smells like a TC, looks like a TC and produces cold cloud tops like this...

Maybe they are waiting to see if the tops get sheared out. It still looks a lot like Irene did when it passed over SFL in 99, even if the thunderstorms are displaced to the east of the LLC.

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Mike Watkins....whats happening? Yeah...I agree...the center is still a little to west of the convection but they kept Danny a TROPICAL system when the convection was over 100 miles away from the center so....yeah...I agree with you...I am not going to predict what they are going to do with it...I don't want to jinx it...LOL...
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#1865 Postby Sanibel » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:30 pm

I think the fade by morning people are starting to look bad.


Looks like a hurricane. I'd say direct to Erika most likely.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#1866 Postby vbhoutex » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:31 pm

Despite my earlier posts, I have to agree we have a player now. The convection has been consistent and strong and is not being destroyed by the shear, which is obviously still present. However, I would feel more confident in the future of 94L as Erika if that LLCC would get back under the convection. That is the only real fly I see in the ointment right now.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#1867 Postby boca » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:33 pm

Yeah this 94L is probably a TD or Erika. Its most likely not going to look like a skeleton like I said earlier. Its getting to the Herbert box.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#1868 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:34 pm

94L is again at above graphic of forum. :)
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L - Computer Models

#1869 Postby Bocadude85 » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:39 pm

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#1870 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:44 pm

Pretty explosive looking burst, I think the NHC may wait till the Vis before making any call though and maybe even wait till recon gets into the system to get a good idea of its actual strength and health.

For now looks like it'll be a close shave with the NE Caribbean but I think it may just about clear it, the US still has to be a real threat however...
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#1871 Postby N2FSU » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:46 pm

quite large...the convection looks to cover about the area of the entire peninsula of Florida
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#1872 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:47 pm

no change in organization. No TC yet and the LLC has not closed up at all today

http://manati.orbit.nesdis.noaa.gov/asc ... Bas100.png
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#1873 Postby Evil Jeremy » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:47 pm

I am off to bed now, but sitting here in SFL, this system is starting to catch my interest as a potential future threat. Granted it is still at least a week out, but still, its something lol.
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#1874 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:50 pm

shows an open wave. They pass through Florida frequently. Nothing to see in that run of significance
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#1875 Postby deltadog03 » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:52 pm

00z nogaps pays a visit to very near miami/wpb/fll
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#1876 Postby Scorpion » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:53 pm

Nogaps

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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#1877 Postby MWatkins » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:53 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:no change in organization. No TC yet and the LLC has not closed up at all today

http://manati.orbit.nesdis.noaa.gov/asc ... Bas100.png


As of 9:20PM Eastern (when that QSCAT pass was taken) I would have agreed with you. However, since that time convection has become much more concentrated and circular.

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#1878 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:53 pm

Thats why I think they may not upgrade till recon goes in there Derek, I personally suspect there maybe a LLC but that doesn't seem to suggest it and the NHC are not going to upgrade only for recon to show its not closed off at all.
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#1879 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:54 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:no change in organization. No TC yet and the LLC has not closed up at all today

http://manati.orbit.nesdis.noaa.gov/asc ... Bas100.png


so derek is the 00z nogaps wrong too.. fish storm huh.. :P
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#1880 Postby Scorpion » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:54 pm

CMC also much further west
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