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#2581 Postby Cookie » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:37 am

Thanks for all the hard work guys on the updates and images etc. keep up the good work. :ggreen:
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Re: ATL : HURRICANE IDA

#2582 Postby cycloneye » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:38 am



Alan,to let you know that I reposted those two web cams at the thread with sticky at the top of forum.If you find more cams,post them there.
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#2583 Postby alan1961 » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:44 am

cycloneye wrote:


Alan,to let you know that I reposted those two web cams at the thread with sticky at the top of forum.If you find more cams,post them there.


ok cycloneye :wink:
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#2584 Postby cycloneye » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:47 am

alan1961 wrote:
cycloneye wrote:


Alan,to let you know that I reposted those two web cams at the thread with sticky at the top of forum.If you find more cams,post them there.


ok cycloneye :wink:


Those are very good cams.It looks like they are moving things for protection in that hotel .
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#2585 Postby cycloneye » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:55 am

Cancun radar that refreshes every 15 minutes.Nice eyewall wrapping around the eye.

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Re: ATL : HURRICANE IDA - Recon

#2586 Postby cycloneye » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:01 am

The next mission will depart at 10 AM EST.

FLIGHT ONE -- TEAL 70
A. 08/1800Z,09/0000Z
B. AFXXX 0411A IDA
C. 08/1500Z
D. 21.0N 86.0W
E. 08/1700Z TO 09/0000Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT
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#2587 Postby Sanibel » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:14 am

Yeah, I thought that was the peak. It hit the ridge and stalled in the Channel. Weird storm.


Will this play out more east?
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#2588 Postby tolakram » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:16 am

Now a hurricane in the northern Gulf. I really think the NHC needs to hang onto this storm all the way to landfall, regardless of what kind of storm it is.

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#2589 Postby Sanibel » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:18 am

Another Wilma type stall in the Channel. The Gulf Stream will supply SST's under it.
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#2590 Postby tolakram » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:19 am

High speed visible.

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... mframes=15

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http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/get-goes?satellite=GOES-E%20CONUS&lat=22&lon=-84&info=vis&zoom=1&width=3000&height=2000&type=Animation&numframes=15


A shift more to the left means warmer water.

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#2591 Postby cycloneye » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:21 am

NHC needs to hang onto this storm all the way to landfall, regardless of what kind of storm it is.


Agreed.That may confuse many people in the gulf coast who dont know what is the difference between extratropical and tropical in terms of the effects.
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#2592 Postby TreasureIslandFLGal » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:24 am

Sanibel,
I think Ida's path will be more easterly than current models show. Look at the ridging/dry air building in from the west (central mexico into the gulf) under that other low in the western gulf. I can't see this system not being affected by that. "the wall" it can't go through. If it got north of that influence, then it could've kept going north with a little western component. But that stall seems to have made for a much tougher trip against that inluence as it builds in on the storm's west side. This will force a north or ne component only, by what appears to be already happening to the storm's western periphery.
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#2593 Postby tolakram » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:24 am

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#2594 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:28 am

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#2595 Postby Blown Away » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:33 am

Wobbling back to the N or NNW, let's see if it is a trend.
http://flhurricane.com/imageanimator.php?70
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#2596 Postby Emmett_Brown » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:34 am

The synoptics are never the same for any 2 storms, but it could be argued that Wilma was in the first stages of extratropical transition when it crossed SFL, and it seemingly caused the storm to be even worse. Again, not directly comparing the track or strength of Ida to Wilma, just pointing out that there is usually a longer transition from Trop to ExTrop over the warmer GOM waters than there would be in the North Atlantic for example. So, I agree that the NHC is counting their chickens too soon regarding the transition, and should just assume the storm will be tropical until it actually transitions.
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#2597 Postby Emmett_Brown » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:36 am

Blown_away wrote:Wobbling back to the N or NNW, let's see if it is a trend.
http://flhurricane.com/imageanimator.php?70


Certainly appears to be more NNW on the last couple frames of that loop.
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#2598 Postby Blown Away » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:41 am

Cloud tops warming a little and Ida's eyewall is not looking as potent on radar.
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#2599 Postby marciacubed » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:44 am

Emmett_Brown wrote:
Blown_away wrote:Wobbling back to the N or NNW, let's see if it is a trend.
http://flhurricane.com/imageanimator.php?70


Certainly appears to be more NNW on the last couple frames of that loop.



I agree it is going more N than NW in that loop I wonder if that is just a wobble or a definite move.
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#2600 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:44 am

Emmett_Brown wrote:The synoptics are never the same for any 2 storms, but it could be argued that Wilma was in the first stages of extratropical transition when it crossed SFL, and it seemingly caused the storm to be even worse. Again, not directly comparing the track or strength of Ida to Wilma, just pointing out that there is usually a longer transition from Trop to ExTrop over the warmer GOM waters than there would be in the North Atlantic for example. So, I agree that the NHC is counting their chickens too soon regarding the transition, and should just assume the storm will be tropical until it actually transitions.


They are in the business of making predictions not waiting until something happens in real time. They made their prediction and as always its subject to change but they don't get the luxury like we do of changing our thoughts every 5 minutes.
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