ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION HENRI (10L)

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Message
Author
User avatar
dixiebreeze
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 5140
Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:07 pm
Location: crystal river, fla.

Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM HENRI (10L)

#341 Postby dixiebreeze » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:49 pm

Still surprised that no Recon is scheduled for a TS this far west.
0 likes   

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21238
Age: 42
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

#342 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:53 pm

I would not be surprised to see a motion of 280 to 285 over night with as much convection that it has right now..

midlevel steering is pretty clear that the 290 300 degrees wont last with deep convection like this .. here is the mid level steering.. it will begin to slow down here overnight as it begins to run into the ridge.

i would say it barely makes it past 60 west and 20 north before stalling briefly and turning wsw.
Image
0 likes   

User avatar
blp
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2840
Age: 46
Joined: Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:51 pm
Location: Miami, FL
Contact:

Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM HENRI (10L)

#343 Postby blp » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:05 pm

Seems like the convection may be partially covering the center again with that last burst. Its hard to tell though at night.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... _floater_2
0 likes   

Derek Ortt

#344 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:10 pm

a ULL over PR may be very favorable for the system as it would be to its SW
0 likes   

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21238
Age: 42
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM HENRI (10L)

#345 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:14 pm

This is interesting.. oh well posting that in here keep screwing up the alignment... so here is the link...
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic2/real ... 000&loop=0

TROPICAL STORM HENRI 0:00UTC 07October2009
UW-CIMSS Experimental Vertical Shear and TC Intensity Trend Estimates

Current Conditions (from TPC) :
Latitude : 18:04:28 N
Longitude : 54:46:26 W
Intensity (MSLP) : 1005.0 hPa

Max Pot Int (MPI,from Emanuel) : 929.5 hPa
MPI differential (MSLP-MPI) : 75.5 hPa

CIMSS Vertical Shear Magnitude : 13.0 m/s
Direction : 230.0 deg

Outlook for TC Intensification Based on Current
Env. Shear Values and MPI Differential
Forecast Interval : 6hr 12hr 18hr 24hr
......................N ....N ...N ...N

Legend : VF-Very Favorable F-Favorable N-Neutral
U-Unfavorable VU-Very Unfavorable

-- Mean Intensity Trend (negative indicates TC deepening) --
6hr 12hr 18hr 24hr
VF <-3.0mb/ 6hr <-6.0mb/12hr <-9.0mb/18hr <-12.0mb/24hr
F -3.0 - -1.0 -6.0 - -2.0 -9.0 - -3.0 -12.0 - -4.0
N -1.0 - +1.0 -2.0 - +2.0 -3.0 - +3.0 -4.0 - +4.0
U +1.0 - +3.0 +2.0 - +6.0 +3.0 - +9.0 +4.0 -+12.0
VU >+3.0 >+6.0 >+9.0 >+12.0
0 likes   

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21238
Age: 42
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

#346 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:24 pm

Advanced Dvorak from cimss..

CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
2.8 /1002.0mb/ 41.0kt


http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic2/real ... 000&loop=0
0 likes   

User avatar
blp
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2840
Age: 46
Joined: Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:51 pm
Location: Miami, FL
Contact:

Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM HENRI (10L)

#347 Postby blp » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:26 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:This is interesting.. oh well posting that in here keep screwing up the alignment... so here is the link...
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic2/real ... 000&loop=0

TROPICAL STORM HENRI 0:00UTC 07October2009
UW-CIMSS Experimental Vertical Shear and TC Intensity Trend Estimates

Current Conditions (from TPC) :
Latitude : 18:04:28 N
Longitude : 54:46:26 W
Intensity (MSLP) : 1005.0 hPa

Max Pot Int (MPI,from Emanuel) : 929.5 hPa
MPI differential (MSLP-MPI) : 75.5 hPa

CIMSS Vertical Shear Magnitude : 13.0 m/s
Direction : 230.0 deg

Outlook for TC Intensification Based on Current
Env. Shear Values and MPI Differential
Forecast Interval : 6hr 12hr 18hr 24hr
......................N ....N ...N ...N

Legend : VF-Very Favorable F-Favorable N-Neutral
U-Unfavorable VU-Very Unfavorable

-- Mean Intensity Trend (negative indicates TC deepening) --
6hr 12hr 18hr 24hr
VF <-3.0mb/ 6hr <-6.0mb/12hr <-9.0mb/18hr <-12.0mb/24hr
F -3.0 - -1.0 -6.0 - -2.0 -9.0 - -3.0 -12.0 - -4.0
N -1.0 - +1.0 -2.0 - +2.0 -3.0 - +3.0 -4.0 - +4.0
U +1.0 - +3.0 +2.0 - +6.0 +3.0 - +9.0 +4.0 -+12.0
VU >+3.0 >+6.0 >+9.0 >+12.0


Interesting indeed. Do they base this data off any models like GFS or Nogaps?
0 likes   

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21238
Age: 42
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM HENRI - Models

#348 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:26 pm

Image
0 likes   

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21238
Age: 42
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM HENRI (10L)

#349 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:28 pm

blp wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:This is interesting.. oh well posting that in here keep screwing up the alignment... so here is the link...
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic2/real ... 000&loop=0

TROPICAL STORM HENRI 0:00UTC 07October2009
UW-CIMSS Experimental Vertical Shear and TC Intensity Trend Estimates

Current Conditions (from TPC) :
Latitude : 18:04:28 N
Longitude : 54:46:26 W
Intensity (MSLP) : 1005.0 hPa

Max Pot Int (MPI,from Emanuel) : 929.5 hPa
MPI differential (MSLP-MPI) : 75.5 hPa

CIMSS Vertical Shear Magnitude : 13.0 m/s
Direction : 230.0 deg

Outlook for TC Intensification Based on Current
Env. Shear Values and MPI Differential
Forecast Interval : 6hr 12hr 18hr 24hr
......................N ....N ...N ...N

Legend : VF-Very Favorable F-Favorable N-Neutral
U-Unfavorable VU-Very Unfavorable

-- Mean Intensity Trend (negative indicates TC deepening) --
6hr 12hr 18hr 24hr
VF <-3.0mb/ 6hr <-6.0mb/12hr <-9.0mb/18hr <-12.0mb/24hr
F -3.0 - -1.0 -6.0 - -2.0 -9.0 - -3.0 -12.0 - -4.0
N -1.0 - +1.0 -2.0 - +2.0 -3.0 - +3.0 -4.0 - +4.0
U +1.0 - +3.0 +2.0 - +6.0 +3.0 - +9.0 +4.0 -+12.0
VU >+3.0 >+6.0 >+9.0 >+12.0


Interesting indeed. Do they base this data off any models like GFS or Nogaps?


From what i read .. its based off of trends hence the title of the page :P
:)
0 likes   

User avatar
blp
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2840
Age: 46
Joined: Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:51 pm
Location: Miami, FL
Contact:

Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM HENRI (10L)

#350 Postby blp » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:35 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
blp wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:This is interesting.. oh well posting that in here keep screwing up the alignment... so here is the link...
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic2/real ... 000&loop=0

TROPICAL STORM HENRI 0:00UTC 07October2009
UW-CIMSS Experimental Vertical Shear and TC Intensity Trend Estimates

Current Conditions (from TPC) :
Latitude : 18:04:28 N
Longitude : 54:46:26 W
Intensity (MSLP) : 1005.0 hPa

Max Pot Int (MPI,from Emanuel) : 929.5 hPa
MPI differential (MSLP-MPI) : 75.5 hPa

CIMSS Vertical Shear Magnitude : 13.0 m/s
Direction : 230.0 deg

Outlook for TC Intensification Based on Current
Env. Shear Values and MPI Differential
Forecast Interval : 6hr 12hr 18hr 24hr
......................N ....N ...N ...N

Legend : VF-Very Favorable F-Favorable N-Neutral
U-Unfavorable VU-Very Unfavorable

-- Mean Intensity Trend (negative indicates TC deepening) --
6hr 12hr 18hr 24hr
VF <-3.0mb/ 6hr <-6.0mb/12hr <-9.0mb/18hr <-12.0mb/24hr
F -3.0 - -1.0 -6.0 - -2.0 -9.0 - -3.0 -12.0 - -4.0
N -1.0 - +1.0 -2.0 - +2.0 -3.0 - +3.0 -4.0 - +4.0
U +1.0 - +3.0 +2.0 - +6.0 +3.0 - +9.0 +4.0 -+12.0
VU >+3.0 >+6.0 >+9.0 >+12.0


Interesting indeed. Do they base this data off any models like GFS or Nogaps?


From what i read .. its based off of trends hence the title of the page :P
:)



Oops, sorry, well that was obvious. Man this thing is still blowing up some nice convection. What your take? Does it dissipate?
0 likes   

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21238
Age: 42
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

#351 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:43 pm

blp wrote:Oops, sorry, well that was obvious. Man this thing is still blowing up some nice convection. What your take? Does it dissipate?

I wrote a pretty long post on the previous page with some images. :)

in general I think as long as convection stays as strong as it is the farther south it will move and the better environment it will be in ..
0 likes   

User avatar
blp
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2840
Age: 46
Joined: Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:51 pm
Location: Miami, FL
Contact:

Re:

#352 Postby blp » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:54 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
blp wrote:Oops, sorry, well that was obvious. Man this thing is still blowing up some nice convection. What your take? Does it dissipate?

I wrote a pretty long post on the previous page with some images. :)

in general I think as long as convection stays as strong as it is the farther south it will move and the better environment it will be in ..


Thanks I just went back and saw it. Sounds pretty resonable and much more possible than I thought yesterday with all this heavy convection. Keep up the good work, I learn a lot from your posts.
0 likes   

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21238
Age: 42
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

Re: Re:

#353 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:55 pm

blp wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
blp wrote:Oops, sorry, well that was obvious. Man this thing is still blowing up some nice convection. What your take? Does it dissipate?

I wrote a pretty long post on the previous page with some images. :)

in general I think as long as convection stays as strong as it is the farther south it will move and the better environment it will be in ..


Thanks I just went back and saw it. Sounds pretty resonable and much more possible than I thought yesterday with all this heavy convection. Keep up the good work, I learn a lot from your posts.



Thanks :)
0 likes   

User avatar
HURAKAN
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 46086
Age: 38
Joined: Thu May 20, 2004 4:34 pm
Location: Key West, FL
Contact:

Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM HENRI (10L)

#354 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:00 am

Image

Image

Henri looking more impressive than Danny ever did
0 likes   

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21238
Age: 42
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM HENRI (10L)

#355 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:03 am

Thats impressive..

4 Z image


everything else is in a eclipse..

actually here is last 2 images .. big explosion !
Image
0 likes   

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21238
Age: 42
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

#356 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:39 am

latest gfdl and hwrf bring it to hurricane strength well the hwrf up to 63kts
0 likes   

floridasun78
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 3755
Joined: Sun May 17, 2009 10:16 pm
Location: miami fl

Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM HENRI (10L)

#357 Postby floridasun78 » Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:57 am

it like this ts henri not going by book i bet nhc will relook at henti later today have wind upto 60mph if this blowup near center keep growning
0 likes   

User avatar
cycloneye
Admin
Admin
Posts: 143867
Age: 68
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:54 am
Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico

Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM HENRI - Advisories

#358 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:17 am


WTNT35 KNHC 070843
TCPAT5
BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM HENRI ADVISORY NUMBER 3
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL102009
500 AM AST WED OCT 07 2009

...HENRI STRENGTHENS A LITTLE MORE...

AT 500 AM AST...0900 UTC...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM HENRI WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 18.1 NORTH...LONGITUDE 56.1 WEST OR ABOUT 460
MILES...740 KM...EAST OF THE NORTHERN LEEWARD ISLANDS.

HENRI IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 14 MPH...22 KM/HR...AND A
WESTWARD TO WEST-NORTHWESTWARD MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE OVER
THE NEXT DAY OR TWO. ON THIS TRACK...THE CENTER OF HENRI AND THE
ASSOCIATED STRONG WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO PASS NORTH OF THE LESSER
ANTILLES AT ITS CLOSEST APPROACH.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS HAVE INCREASED TO NEAR 50 MPH...85 KM/HR...
WITH HIGHER GUSTS. LITTLE CHANGE IN STRENGTH IS EXPECTED TODAY.
HOWEVER...WEAKENING IS FORECAST TO BEGIN BY TONIGHT...AND HENRI
COULD BECOME A REMNANT LOW BY THURSDAY.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 70 MILES...110 KM
FROM THE CENTER.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1005 MB...29.68 INCHES.

...SUMMARY OF 500 AM AST INFORMATION...
LOCATION...18.1N 56.1W
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...50 MPH
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WEST OR 280 DEGREES AT 13 MPH
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1005 MB

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT
1100 AM AST.

$$
FORECASTER KIMBERLAIN


000
WTNT45 KNHC 070848
TCDAT5
TROPICAL STORM HENRI DISCUSSION NUMBER 3
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL102009
500 AM AST WED OCT 07 2009

INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY AFTER THE ECLIPSE SHOWS A LARGE MASS OF
VIGOROUS DEEP CONVECTION ASSOCIATED WITH HENRI...WITH CLOUD TOP
TEMPERATURES COLDER THAN -80C. IN FACT...THE AREAL COVERAGE OF DEEP
CONVECTION HAS EXPANDED CONSIDERABLY SINCE YESTERDAY EVENING...
THOUGH THERE ARE NO BANDING FEATURES. HOWEVER...A 0531 UTC AMSR-E
PASS INDICATED THAT THE CENTER WAS STILL PARTIALLY EXPOSED...
LOCATED ON THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE MAIN CONVECTIVE CLUSTER. BASED
UPON THE IMPROVEMENT IN ORGANIZATION DURING THE PAST SEVERAL
HOURS...THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS RAISED TO 45 KT IN ACCORDANCE WITH
0600 UTC DVORAK CLASSIFICATIONS OF 3.0 FROM TAFB AND RECENT
OBJECTIVE ESTIMATES NEAR 3.0 FROM UW CIMSS.

PERSISTENT SOUTHWESTERLY SHEAR OF 20-25 KT CONTINUES TO PREVENT
HENRI FROM STRENGTHENING MUCH. SHIPS MODEL GUIDANCE INDICATES THAT
HIGH WESTERLY SHEAR SHOULD PREVAIL OVER HENRI FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT
24 HOURS...WITH A POSSIBLE RELAXATION THEREAFTER. THIS DOES NOT
SEEM ENTIRELY REALISTIC...AS A MAJORITY OF GLOBAL MODELS INDICATE
THAT HENRI SHOULD CROSS A SHARP SHEAR AXIS NORTH OF THE NORTHEAST
CARIBBEAN ISLANDS IN 36-48 HOURS AND ENCOUNTER STRONG UPPER-LEVEL
NORTHERLY OR NORTHEASTERLY FLOW. SHIPS MODEL OUTPUT ALSO FORECASTS
HENRI TO ENCOUNTER A CONVERGENT UPPER-LEVEL FLOW AND A RATHER
ANTICYCLONIC LOWER TROPOSPHERIC ENVIRONMENT...BOTH OF WHICH WOULD
HAVE A NEGATIVE INFLUENCE ON THE CYCLONE. GIVEN THESE FACTORS...THE
OFFICIAL FORECAST IS IN LINE WITH THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY AND A
MAJORITY OF LARGE-SCALE DYNAMICAL MODELS...CALLING FOR THE
DISSIPATION OF HENRI WITHIN 48 HOURS.

LATEST CENTER FIXES SUGGEST A RATHER UNCERTAIN INITIAL MOTION.
FORTUNATELY...A 0531 UTC AMSR-E PASS HAS ALLOWED FOR A MORE
CONFIDENT INITIAL MOTION ESTIMATE OF 280/11...FARTHER LEFT THAN IN
THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY. THE DOMINANT STEERING IS BEING PROVIDED BY
MID-LEVEL SUBTROPICAL RIDGING NORTH OF HENRI...WITH A MINOR
WEAKNESS AT UPPER LEVELS NORTHWEST OF THE CYCLONE. THIS FLOW
PATTERN SHOULD FAVOR A GENERALLY WESTWARD TO WEST-NORTHWESTWARD
TRACK UNTIL DISSIPATION. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS NUDGED SOUTH OF
THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY TO ACCOUNT FOR ITS MORE SOUTHERN INITIAL
POSITION AND MORE WESTERLY MOTION.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 07/0900Z 18.1N 56.1W 45 KT
12HR VT 07/1800Z 18.9N 58.0W 45 KT
24HR VT 08/0600Z 20.0N 60.3W 40 KT
36HR VT 08/1800Z 21.2N 62.5W 30 KT
48HR VT 09/0600Z 21.2N 63.2W 25 KT...REMNANT LOW
72HR VT 10/0600Z...DISSIPATED

$$
FORECASTER KIMBERLAIN

0 likes   
Visit the Caribbean-Central America Weather Thread where you can find at first post web cams,radars
and observations from Caribbean basin members Click Here

User avatar
cycloneye
Admin
Admin
Posts: 143867
Age: 68
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:54 am
Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico

Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM HENRI (10L)

#359 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:23 am

It was going to be a short-lived cyclone per first advisory but here we are with Henri living another day.
0 likes   
Visit the Caribbean-Central America Weather Thread where you can find at first post web cams,radars
and observations from Caribbean basin members Click Here

leanne_uk
Tropical Storm
Tropical Storm
Posts: 214
Age: 42
Joined: Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:38 pm
Location: Loughborough countryside, Leicestershire, UK

Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM HENRI (10L)

#360 Postby leanne_uk » Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:33 am

Image

Image

Image

Latest images.
0 likes   


Return to “2009”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 40 guests