NE of Azores Islands : INVEST 92L

[brunota2003]

Hurricanes have winds of 74 mph (65 knots) or greater, this system had winds to maybe 60 mph (technically, 58 mph, or 50 knots). So therefore, even if it "was" a tropical system, it still would not be a hurricane.

[cycloneye]

12 UTC Best Track

Winds are decreasing,now down to 35kts and pressure is rising to 997 mbs.

AL, 92, 2009060312, , BEST, 0, 447N, 256W, 35, 997, LO,

[HURAKAN]

[MGC]

92L is not a TROPICAL system. Location, location, location. This thing is futher north than New York in early June....please...MGC

[HURAKAN]

92L is not a TROPICAL system. Location, location, location. This thing is futher north than New York in early June....please...MGC

Location ins't everything. If location was really important, then the Brazil hurricane was not tropical because a hurricane in that location is unheard of.

Even the NHC admitted that it had adquired some tropical characteristics, which doesn't mean it was tropical, but it was likely subtropical at some point. Remember that Epsilon intensified over very cool waters.

[cycloneye]

Is hanging on almost stationary (maybe doing a mini loop) with little bursts of convection.

[HURAKAN]

Bye, bye!

[Chacor]

WONT50 LFPW 030844

A
SECURITE ON METAREA 2, METEO-FRANCE,

WARNING NR 297 , WEDNESDAY 3 JUNE 2009 AT 0845 UTC

GENERAL SYNOPSIS, WEDNESDAY 3 AT 00 UTC
THUNDERY LOW 1001 46N24W MOVING SOUTHEAST, EXPECTED 1006 42N21W BY
04/12 UTC.

EAST OF FARADAY
CONTINUING TO 03/15 UTC
CYCLONIC, LOCALLY 8 NEAR LOW. SEVERE GUSTS.

EAST OF ALTAIR
CONTINUING TO 04/06UTC
CYCLONIC, LOCALLY 8 NEAR LOW. SEVERE GUSTS.=

[DanieleItalyRm]

92L is not a TROPICAL system. Location, location, location. This thing is futher north than New York in early June....please...MGC

Location ins't everything. If location was really important, then the Brazil hurricane was not tropical because a hurricane in that location is unheard of.

Even the NHC admitted that it had adquired some tropical characteristics, which doesn't mean it was tropical, but it was likely subtropical at some point. Remember that Epsilon intensified over very cool waters.

92L is not a TROPICAL system. Location, location, location. This thing is futher north than New York in early June....please...MGC

Hurricane Eight 1991..
became a Tropcial depression on 44° and in tropical storm on 43°..

[HURAKAN]

There are similarities with 92L and the perfect storm, but the perfect storm was over part of the Gulf Stream, it was October going into November, and it was close to the US which allows for RECON to fly.

[DanieleItalyRm]

Yes Hurakan, but MGC mentioned "Location"..

[Derek Ortt]

advisories were never issued on Hurricane 8 as NHC felt it would confuse the public

[tolakram]

If SST matters in the definition of a tropical storm then this isn't one. It's a fun curiosity, but not something really tropical, at least using the current definition.

I notice movement has been south east and convection around the center is increasing.

[HURAKAN]

[hurricanefloyd5]

the center of this is moving almost due southward could be headed back into waters that will slowly start warming up huh huh???????!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-rb.html

[cycloneye]

246
ABNT20 KNHC 031737
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT WED JUN 3 2009

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH THE NON-TROPICAL
AREA OF LOW PRESSURE CENTERED ABOUT 400 MILES NORTH-NORTHEAST OF
THE AZORES REMAINS LIMITED. THE LOW CONTINUES TO PRODUCE WINDS TO
GALE FORCE NEAR ITS CENTER...BUT IT IS EXPECTED TO WEAKEN AS IT
MOVES GENERALLY EASTWARD OVER COLD WATERS DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF
DAYS. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...LESS THAN 30 PERCENT...OF THIS
SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL OR SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT
48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BERG

[hurricanefloyd5]

there is from what I see is that there is a 2nd low just to the east of this invest and I think it's dragging this invest sse-southward

[Category 5]

My feeling is if they havent upgraded it by now they're not going to at all.

[cycloneye]

18 UTC Best Track

It has moved southward from 44.7n at 12 UTC to 44.2n at 18 UTC,both at the same longitud.

AL, 92, 2009060318, , BEST, 0, 442N, 256W, 35, 1000, LO,

[HURAKAN]

My feeling is if they havent upgraded it by now they're not going to at all.

Unless intense convection develops, there is no chance.