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#61 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:28 am

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WTPN32 PGTW 230900
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVMARFCSTCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING//
RMKS/
1. TYPHOON 11W (VAMCO) WARNING NR 026
01 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONE IN NORTHWESTPAC
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
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WARNING POSITION:
230600Z --- NEAR 28.5N 154.9E
MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 350 DEGREES AT 10 KTS
POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 025 NM
POSITION BASED ON EYE FIXED BY SATELLITE
PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 085 KT, GUSTS 105 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 050 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
040 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 070 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
060 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
070 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 115 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
105 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
090 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
110 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
REPEAT POSIT: 28.5N 154.9E
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FORECASTS:
12 HRS, VALID AT:
231800Z --- 30.5N 154.8E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 085 KT, GUSTS 105 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 045 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
035 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 065 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
060 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 120 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
110 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
095 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
110 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 010 DEG/ 13 KTS
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24 HRS, VALID AT:
240600Z --- 33.0N 155.3E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 080 KT, GUSTS 100 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 045 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
035 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 065 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
060 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 120 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
110 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
095 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
110 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 36 HR POSIT: 015 DEG/ 21 KTS
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36 HRS, VALID AT:
241800Z --- 37.0N 156.7E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 070 KT, GUSTS 085 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
BECOMING EXTRATROPICAL
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 025 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
025 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 045 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
035 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 115 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
120 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
090 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
095 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 48 HR POSIT: 020 DEG/ 30 KTS
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EXTENDED OUTLOOK:
48 HRS, VALID AT:
250600Z --- 42.5N 159.8E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 055 KT, GUSTS 070 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
EXTRATROPICAL
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REMARKS:
230900Z POSITION NEAR 29.0N 154.9E.
TYPHOON (TY) 11W (VAMCO), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 850 NM NORTHWEST OF
WAKE ISLAND, HAS TRACKED NORTHWARD AT 10 KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX
HOURS. RECENT ANIMATED MULTISPECTRAL IMAGERY INDICATES THE EYE
FEATURE IS BECOMING RAGGED AND A 230647Z 37V GHZ SSMIS MICROWAVE
IMAGE INDICATES THAT THE EYEWALL MAY BE OPENING TO THE SOUTH. TY 11W
HAS LOST SOME OF ITS INTENSITY IN THE LAST 6 HOURS; AS TY 11W MOVES
AWAY FROM FAVORABLE SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES AND INTO A REGION OF
HIGHER VERTICAL WIND SHEAR (VWS), THE SYSTEM WILL SLOWLY LOSE
INTENSITY THROUGHOUT THE FORECAST. AFTER TAU 24, TY 11W WILL
ENCOUNTER AN UPPER LEVEL BAROCLINIC SYSTEM THAT WILL DRAMATICALLY
INCREASE THE VWS, BUT THE INCREASED DIVERGENCE AHEAD OF THE
BAROCLINIC SYSTEM WILL ENHANCE OUTFLOW AND LIMIT THE LOSS OF
INTENSITY. AFTER TAU 36, TY 11W WILL RAPIDLY UNDERGO EXTRA-TROPICAL
TRANSITION AND ACCELERATE INTO THE MID-LATITUDE WESTERLIES AND FALL
BELOW TYPHOON STRENGTH AND COMPLETE EXTRA-TROPICAL TRANSITION BY TAU
48. MAXIMUM SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT 230600Z IS 29 FEET. NEXT
WARNINGS AT 231500Z, 232100Z, 240300Z AND 240900Z.//
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#62 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:40 am

ZCZC 484
WTPQ21 RJTD 230900
RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TY 0910 VAMCO (0910)
ANALYSIS
PSTN 230900UTC 28.9N 154.8E GOOD
MOVE N 10KT
PRES 955HPA
MXWD 080KT
GUST 115KT
50KT 60NM
30KT 160NM NORTHEAST 120NM SOUTHWEST
FORECAST
24HF 240900UTC 32.3N 154.6E 85NM 70%
MOVE N 09KT
PRES 965HPA
MXWD 075KT
GUST 105KT
45HF 250600UTC 39.6N 157.9E 180NM 70%
MOVE NNE 20KT
PRES 975HPA
MXWD 065KT
GUST 095KT
69HF 260600UTC 50.6N 172.2E 325NM 70% EXTRATROPICAL LOW =
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#63 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:01 pm

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Open to the south
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Re: WPAC: TYPHOON VAMCO (11W)

#64 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:26 pm

Not to sound the annular alarm, but...
Doesnt it sorta look like it? I mean, large eye, decreasing feeder bands, not the deepest of convection and cooling water temps. I'm sure Im wrong, considering this is something that usually occurs among stronger cyclones, but it certainly looks like it, doesnt it?
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#65 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:31 pm

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Vamco is a rare system for the WPAC. Compact storms is not for what the WPAC is known for.
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Re: WPAC: TYPHOON VAMCO (11W)

#66 Postby Aslkahuna » Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:37 pm

Although WPAC seems to be better known for those large monsters, the region does get its share of compact storms as well, I've seen a number of them over the years.

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#67 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:41 pm

Aslkahuna wrote:Although WPAC seems to be better known for those large monsters, the region does get its share of compact storms as well, I've seen a number of them over the years.

Steve


Me too, but normally we see large monsters. Even tropical storms tend to be larger than in any other basin.
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#68 Postby Cookie » Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:41 pm

its be on the slim fast leave it alone. :ggreen:
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Re: WPAC: TYPHOON VAMCO (11W)

#69 Postby Macrocane » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:11 pm

Certainly this hasn't be a common typhoon season so uncommon storms can be expected.
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#70 Postby Cookie » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:16 pm

how come it hasn't been a commone typhoon season?
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#71 Postby Macrocane » Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:16 pm

Cookie wrote:how come it hasn't been a commone typhoon season?


Well, it has been a slow season, it's August and we've only had 10 named storms and only 2 of them have reached cat 3 or higher intensity. In a normal season we've had at this time like 15 named storms, five cat 3 or higher equivalent typhoons and at least one super-typhoon.
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#72 Postby Chacor » Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:06 pm

You can't compare named storms with the category scale, the JMA doesn't name storms based on 1-minute winds so it's a poor comparison.
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#73 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:20 pm

ZCZC 193
WTPQ21 RJTD 240000
RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TY 0910 VAMCO (0910)
ANALYSIS
PSTN 240000UTC 31.0N 154.7E GOOD
MOVE N 10KT
PRES 955HPA
MXWD 080KT
GUST 115KT
50KT 60NM
30KT 160NM NORTHEAST 120NM SOUTHWEST
FORECAST
24HF 250000UTC 36.9N 156.1E 85NM 70%
MOVE N 15KT
PRES 965HPA
MXWD 075KT
GUST 105KT
48HF 260000UTC 48.9N 166.3E 210NM 70% EXTRATROPICAL LOW =
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#74 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:38 pm

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Still a beautiful storm
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Re: WPAC: TYPHOON VAMCO (11W)

#75 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:06 pm

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WTPN32 PGTW 240300
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVMARFCSTCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING//
RMKS/
1. TYPHOON 11W (VAMCO) WARNING NR 029
01 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONE IN NORTHWESTPAC
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
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WARNING POSITION:
240000Z --- NEAR 31.0N 154.6E
MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 005 DEGREES AT 10 KTS
POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 040 NM
POSITION BASED ON CENTER LOCATED BY SATELLITE
PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 080 KT, GUSTS 100 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 045 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
045 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
035 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 070 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
070 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
060 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 135 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
115 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
085 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
080 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
REPEAT POSIT: 31.0N 154.6E
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FORECASTS:
12 HRS, VALID AT:
241200Z --- 33.5N 155.1E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 075 KT, GUSTS 090 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 045 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
035 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 065 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
055 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 120 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
110 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
095 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
095 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 015 DEG/ 22 KTS
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24 HRS, VALID AT:
250000Z --- 37.6N 156.7E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 070 KT, GUSTS 085 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
BECOMING EXTRATROPICAL
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 030 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
025 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 050 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
045 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 120 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
110 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
095 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
095 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 36 HR POSIT: 025 DEG/ 34 KTS
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36 HRS, VALID AT:
251200Z --- 43.7N 160.9E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 060 KT, GUSTS 075 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
EXTRATROPICAL
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REMARKS:
240300Z POSITION NEAR 31.6N 154.7E.
TYPHOON (TY) 11W (VAMCO), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 955 NM NORTHWEST OF
WAKE ISLAND, HAS TRACKED NORTHWARD AT 10 KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX
HOURS. MAXIMUM SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT 240000Z IS 25 FEET. NEXT
WARNINGS AT 240900Z, 241500Z, 242100Z AND 250300Z.//
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#76 Postby Macrocane » Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:18 pm

Chacor wrote:You can't compare named storms with the category scale, the JMA doesn't name storms based on 1-minute winds so it's a poor comparison.


Well, then I will say that based on the JTWC data there has been 11 tropical storms and only two cat 3 or higher typhoons. We cannot deny it has been a below average season (10-min or 1-min based), it has been slow. By the way, I don't see why it was a poor comparison, maybe it was no the best but poor?
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#77 Postby theavocado » Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:35 am

Macrocane wrote:Well, then I will say that based on the JTWC data there has been 11 tropical storms and only two cat 3 or higher typhoons. We cannot deny it has been a below average season (10-min or 1-min based), it has been slow. By the way, I don't see why it was a poor comparison, maybe it was no the best but poor?


I think the real comparison is between the East Pacific and West Pacific (using JT data). They are both on the 11th system right now. If you add in 01C, east of the dateline is beating west of the dateline for numbers. Thats pretty weird.


Also, 11W happened later in August last year, and last year was an unusually slow season. It was attributed to the borderline La Nina conditions, but as we are now in a borderline El Nino condition, we seem to be even slower.
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Re: WPAC: TYPHOON VAMCO (11W)

#78 Postby theavocado » Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:47 am

DONUT!

After reviewing John Knaff's 2003 paper "Annular Hurricanes", I think this actually does meet a lot of the Annular characteristcs. Cooler SSTs, intensity >85kts, upper-level eastelies (looks the the upper level ridge is still to the north), and a pronounced Donut shape. JTWC has a 46nm eye from their last eye fix.

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#79 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:18 am

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Re: WPAC: TYPHOON VAMCO (11W)

#80 Postby theavocado » Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:53 am

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WTPN32 PGTW 240900
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVMARFCSTCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING//
RMKS/
1. TYPHOON 11W (VAMCO) WARNING NR 030
01 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONE IN NORTHWESTPAC
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
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WARNING POSITION:
240600Z --- NEAR 32.1N 155.0E
MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 010 DEGREES AT 11 KTS
POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 025 NM
POSITION BASED ON EYE FIXED BY SATELLITE
PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 085 KT, GUSTS 105 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 045 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
045 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
035 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 070 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
070 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
055 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 140 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
120 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
090 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
095 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
REPEAT POSIT: 32.1N 155.0E
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FORECASTS:
12 HRS, VALID AT:
241800Z --- 35.5N 156.2E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 085 KT, GUSTS 105 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 045 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
045 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
035 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 070 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
070 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
055 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 140 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
120 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
090 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
085 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 020 DEG/ 26 KTS
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24 HRS, VALID AT:
250600Z --- 40.3N 158.5E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 080 KT, GUSTS 100 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
BECOMING EXTRATROPICAL
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 030 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
025 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 050 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
045 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 125 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
115 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
085 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
080 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 36 HR POSIT: 025 DEG/ 35 KTS
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36 HRS, VALID AT:
251800Z --- 46.6N 162.9E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 065 KT, GUSTS 080 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
BECOMING EXTRATROPICAL
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 045 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
030 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 100 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
110 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
075 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
070 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 48 HR POSIT: 040 DEG/ 38 KTS
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EXTENDED OUTLOOK:
48 HRS, VALID AT:
260600Z --- 52.0N 171.0E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 050 KT, GUSTS 065 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
EXTRATROPICAL
---

REMARKS:
240900Z POSITION NEAR 33.0N 155.3E.
TYPHOON (TY) 11W (VAMCO), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 990 NM NORTHWEST OF
WAKE ISLAND, HAS TRACKED NORTHWARD AT 11 KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX
HOURS. RECENT VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGERY TRENDS INDICATE THE SYSTEM
HAS A LARGE (46 NM) DIAMETER EYE, HAS LOST OF MOST OF THE FEEDER
BANDS AND HAS BECOME MUCH MORE AXISYMMETRIC. A 240736Z SSMI IMAGE
SHOWS A VERY WELL DEFINED RING OF CONVECTION AROUND A LARGE EYE
FEATURE WITH NO CONVECTIVE BANDING. TY 11W WILL ENCOUNTER AN
APPROACHING MIDLATITUDE SYSTEM AFTER TAU 24, BUT THE ANNULAR
CHARACTERISTICS OF TY 11W WILL HELP ISOLATE IT FROM THE ENVIRONMENT
AND WILL DELAY FULL EXTRA-TROPICAL TRANSITION. TY 11W WILL
EVENTUALLY SUCCUMB TO THE EFFECTS OF LOWER SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES
AND HIGHER VERTICAL WIND SHEAR AS IT FINALLY GOES EXTRA-TROPICAL BY
TAU 48. MAXIMUM SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT 240600Z IS 25 FEET. NEXT
WARNINGS AT 241500Z, 242100Z, 250300Z AND 250900Z.//
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