ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

#4381 Postby tailgater » Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:27 am

Looking at early morning Visible she looks like she has totally dissipated with the strong MLC she could try and reform again. funny how mid level shear tears her apart but a mid level cyclone looks great and no you don't have to tell me how shear works, it just sounds odd.
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#4382 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:51 am

Link: http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... is_floater

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Looks like the broad, ill-defined center is just south of the Mona Passage
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#4383 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:13 am

I doubt that L position is even a center anymore. If a new center forms, it should be near the convection.

This is the third storm to basically commit suicide this season by taking a path straight into high shear...
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#4384 Postby Frank2 » Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:17 am

Except for Bill, here is a photo list of this year's weaklings (er, tropical cyclones):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Atlan ... son#Storms

we all may go back and forth about the models, but in the end the long-term forecasts for an lower-than-average El Nino season have been very accurate, and is why everyone, from JB to CSU to the NHC lowered their seasonal forecast totals...
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#4385 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:22 am

except Frank, the shear has not been the typical el nino shear. El nino shear is typically upper level shear in the MDR. Not UL shear in the Bahamas like Danny had or ML shear ike this one had
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

#4386 Postby wxman57 » Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:22 am

Here's a surface plot/satellite. Pressures across the NE Caribbean have risen 2-3 millibars since yesterday. Little to no evidence of a mid-level center any longer. Remnants of the weak LLC can be seen west of the convection. Wind shear increases along its path. Bye, Erika! Good riddance!

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#4387 Postby Frank2 » Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:33 am

Derek,

Yes, that is true (no shortage of ULL's this season)...

Just a guess, but it seems that the 2006 season was more influenced by El Nino shear than the present...

By the way, I found this interesting abstract concerning the development of a model with a shear bias:

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=13395368
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#4388 Postby Sanibel » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:10 am

Another nocturnal d-max with nothing under it this time.
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#4389 Postby Gustywind » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:11 am

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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

#4390 Postby Sanibel » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:36 am

That remnant center really flared some good convection in the shear last night. It should dissipate completely over Hispaniola today. 2009 had heavily sheared and convecting tropical storms that then got choked-off by bad air and shear.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

#4391 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:39 am

As I see some haved closed the books on the 2009 season and waiting for the 2010 one to start. :roll:Is September!!
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

#4392 Postby wxman57 » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:40 am

Bones feels more confident about his declaration of a dead Erika now:

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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

#4393 Postby lrak » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:51 am

wxman57 wrote:Bones feels more confident about his declaration of a dead Erika now:

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BUT BUT..... :cry: I want my mommie.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

#4394 Postby vbhoutex » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:53 am

Wxman57, there was obviously a a lot of energy involved with Erika. Even though it is obvious that Erika is gone can this energy, if it still exists(I don't know if it does)translate into something later down the road or is that energy now gone with the total disapation of the TC?
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

#4395 Postby lrak » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:56 am

vbhoutex wrote:Wxman57, there was obviously a a lot of energy involved with Erika. Even though it is obvious that Erika is gone can this energy, if it still exists(I don't know if it does)translate into something later down the road or is that energy now gone with the total disapation of the TC?



LIKE Rain for S TX? ...LOL
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

#4396 Postby gatorcane » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:56 am

vbhoutex wrote:Wxman57, there was obviously a a lot of energy involved with Erika. Even though it is obvious that Erika is gone can this energy, if it still exists(I don't know if it does)translate into something later down the road or is that energy now gone with the total disapation of the TC?


Agreed. There is *alot* of energy with this system. I do think it needs watching until either the convection has completely disintegrated or it is on a recurve path.

Afterall it is September and it is lurking in the Caribbean (albeit with unfavorable conditions at the moment but that could change upstream).
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

#4397 Postby Bocadude85 » Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:14 am

gatorcane wrote:
vbhoutex wrote:Wxman57, there was obviously a a lot of energy involved with Erika. Even though it is obvious that Erika is gone can this energy, if it still exists(I don't know if it does)translate into something later down the road or is that energy now gone with the total disapation of the TC?


Agreed. There is *alot* of energy with this system. I do think it needs watching until either the convection has completely disintegrated or it is on a recurve path.

Afterall it is September and it is lurking in the Caribbean (albeit with unfavorable conditions at the moment but that could change upstream).



I agree that this does need to be watched, but for now I think we can say good bye Ericka.
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#4398 Postby Dean4Storms » Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:28 am

The Fat Lady Sung her last number!! Bye Erika!
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

#4399 Postby wxman57 » Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:29 am

Of course we monitor it as long as it has significant convection. But I'm seeing very good signs on satellite and with surface obs now. Wind shear is increasing as forecast and convection is decreasing. It appears quite unlikely that Erika will make a comeback.

Oh,and Irak, quit your whining about rain or I'll send an extreme drought to Corpus Christi! Wait, I'm too late. It's already there.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

#4400 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:33 am

gatorcane wrote:
vbhoutex wrote:Wxman57, there was obviously a a lot of energy involved with Erika. Even though it is obvious that Erika is gone can this energy, if it still exists(I don't know if it does)translate into something later down the road or is that energy now gone with the total disapation of the TC?


Agreed. There is *alot* of energy with this system. I do think it needs watching until either the convection has completely disintegrated or it is on a recurve path.

Afterall it is September and it is lurking in the Caribbean (albeit with unfavorable conditions at the moment but that could change upstream).


Not really a lot of energy anymore. Erika has a less than 10% chance of regeneration...and that's being generous. Shouldn't be much left of this by this time tomorrow. AND...it doesn't matter if it is September when conditions are what they are.
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