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Re: WPAC : TROPICAL STORM NIDA (26W)

#101 Postby dhoeze » Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:49 pm

oaba09 wrote:
dhoeze wrote:With the forecasted strength of Nida and the distance between the 2 Storms (Urduja 27W), are we looking at another Fujiwara effect causing a harder forecast of its tracks?


JTWC prognostic reasoning has it interacting w/ 27W....


Thanks oaba09.

PAGASA is telling us that it wont, anyways so far Urduja is still tracking towards North North West.
Hopefully no more recurving.

Thanks again.
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Re: WPAC : TROPICAL STORM NIDA (26W)

#102 Postby oaba09 » Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:06 pm

cycloneye wrote:JTWC 00:00 UTC Warning=55kts

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WTPN31 PGTW 240300
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVMARFCSTCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING//
RMKS/
1. TROPICAL STORM 26W (NIDA) WARNING NR 009
02 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONES IN NORTHWESTPAC
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
---
WARNING POSITION:
240000Z --- NEAR 8.6N 145.6E
MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 270 DEGREES AT 08 KTS
POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 060 NM
POSITION BASED ON CENTER LOCATED BY SATELLITE
PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 055 KT, GUSTS 070 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 030 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
030 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 060 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
060 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
REPEAT POSIT: 8.6N 145.6E
---
FORECASTS:
12 HRS, VALID AT:
241200Z --- 9.6N 143.7E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 060 KT, GUSTS 075 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 025 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
025 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 065 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
060 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
060 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
065 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 315 DEG/ 12 KTS
---
24 HRS, VALID AT:
250000Z --- 11.2N 142.0E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 065 KT, GUSTS 080 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 030 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
030 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 080 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
075 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
070 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
075 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 36 HR POSIT: 320 DEG/ 10 KTS
---
36 HRS, VALID AT:
251200Z --- 12.7N 140.6E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 070 KT, GUSTS 085 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 020 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
020 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
020 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
020 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 035 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
035 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 090 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
085 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
080 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
090 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 48 HR POSIT: 320 DEG/ 11 KTS
---
EXTENDED OUTLOOK:
48 HRS, VALID AT:
260000Z --- 14.4N 139.2E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 075 KT, GUSTS 090 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 025 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
025 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 045 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
045 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
045 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
045 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 110 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
100 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
100 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
105 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 72 HR POSIT: 325 DEG/ 07 KTS
---
72 HRS, VALID AT:
270000Z --- 16.7N 137.5E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 085 KT, GUSTS 105 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 035 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
030 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 055 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
055 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 120 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
115 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
110 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
115 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 96 HR POSIT: 315 DEG/ 05 KTS
---
LONG RANGE OUTLOOK:
NOTE...ERRORS FOR TRACK HAVE AVERAGED NEAR 250 NM
ON DAY 4 AND 350 NM ON DAY 5... AND FOR INTENSITY
NEAR 20 KT EACH DAY.
---
96 HRS, VALID AT:
280000Z --- 18.2N 135.9E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 095 KT, GUSTS 115 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
VECTOR TO 120 HR POSIT: 300 DEG/ 05 KTS
---
120 HRS, VALID AT:
290000Z --- 19.2N 134.0E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 105 KT, GUSTS 130 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
---
REMARKS:
240300Z POSITION NEAR 8.9N 145.1E.
TROPICAL STORM (TS) 26W (NIDA), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 290 NM SOUTH-
SOUTHEAST OF GUAM, HAS TRACKED WESTWARD AT 08 KNOTS OVER THE PAST
SIX HOURS. MAXIMUM SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT 240000Z IS 16 FEET.
NEXT WARNINGS AT 240900Z, 241500Z, 242100Z AND 250300Z. REFER TO
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 27W (TWENTYSEVEN) WARNINGS (WTPN32 PGTW)
FOR SIX-HOURLY UPDATES.//
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It seems like they also changed their forecast to a more western movement......
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Re: WPAC : TROPICAL STORM NIDA (26W)

#103 Postby cycloneye » Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:12 pm

TROPICAL STORM WARNING ISSUED FOR FARAULEP

http://www.prh.noaa.gov/guam/cyclone.php

URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
TROPICAL STORM NIDA (26W) LOCAL STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TIYAN GU
1200 PM CHST TUE NOV 24 2009

...TROPICAL STORM WARNING ISSUED FOR FARAULEP...

.AREAS AFFECTED...
THIS LOCAL STATEMENT PROVIDES INFORMATION AND RECOMMENDED ACTIONS
FOR PEOPLE ON FARAULEP AND SURROUNDING WATERS OUT TO 40 NM.

.WATCHES/WARNINGS...
A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS NOW IN EFFECT FOR FARAULEP. A TROPICAL
STORM WARNING MEANS TROPICAL STORM-FORCE WINDS BETWEEN 39 AND 73 MPH
ARE OCCURRING...OR EXPECTED TO OCCUR WITHIN THE NEXT 12 HOURS.

.STORM INFORMATION...
AT 1000 PM CHST...0000Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM NIDA WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 8.5 DEGREES NORTH AND LONGITUDE 145.7 DEGREES
EAST. THIS IS ABOUT 75 MILES EAST OF FARAULEP.

NIDA IS MOVING WEST AT AROUND 8 MPH. IT IS EXPECTED TO MOVE WEST-
NORTHWEST DURING NEXT 24 HOURS. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE 65 MPH.

.SITUATION OVERVIEW...
TROPICAL STORM NIDA IS INTENSIFYING SOUTH OF GUAM AND MOVING SLOWLY
WEST TOWARD THE ISLAND OF FARAULEP. STRONG WINDS AND HEAVY RAIN WITH
COASTAL INUNDATION DUE TO STORM SURGE CAN BE EXPECTED ON FARAULEP AS
THE TROPICAL STORM PASSES NEARBY THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING.

.PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
SEEK SAFE SHELTER AWAY FROM BOTH THE OCEAN AND LAGOON. TAKE ALL
NECESSARY ACTIONS TO SECURE SMALL CRAFT. DO NOT ATTEMPT ANY INTER-
ISLAND TRAVEL UNTIL AFTER THE STORM PASSES AND SEAS SUBSIDE.

...WIND INFORMATION...
NORTHWEST WINDS 30 TO 40 MPH THIS AFTERNOON BECOMING WEST 50 TO 60
MPH WITH GUSTS TO 75 MPH BY EARLY EVENING DURING CLOSEST POINT OF
APPROACH. IF STRONG WINDS RAPIDLY DIMINISH THIS MAY MEAN THE EYE OF
THE STORM IS PASSING OVERHEAD. IF THIS OCCURS...DO NOT VENTURE FAR
FROM SAFE SHELTER...AS STRONG WINDS WILL SUDDENLY INCREASE FROM THE
OPPOSITE DIRECTION.

...STORM SURGE AND SURF INFORMATION...
EXPECT OFFSHORE SEAS IN EXCESS OF 15 FEET WITH SURF HEIGHTS AROUND
14 TO 18 FEET ON EXPOSED SHORELINES. COASTAL INUNDATION OF 2 TO 4
FEET ABOVE HIGH TIDE IS POSSIBLE THIS EVENING.

...OTHER STORM EFFECTS...
HEAVY SHOWERS AND OCCASIONAL LIGHTNING WITH ACCUMULATIONS OF 5 TO 8
INCHES DURING THE NEXT 12 TO 18 HOURS IS LIKELY TO OCCUR.

.NEXT UPDATE...
THE NEXT LOCAL STATEMENT WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER
SERVICE AT 3 PM.

$$

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#104 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:26 pm

The center should get close to Yap - about 7,000 people live in that island area.
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#105 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:28 pm

23/2032 UTC 8.7N 145.9E T3.5/3.5 NIDA -- West Pacific


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#106 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:29 pm

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Re: WPAC : TROPICAL STORM NIDA (26W)

#107 Postby cycloneye » Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:31 pm

Prognostic Reasoning of Warning #9 at 00:00 UTC by JTWC

WDPN31 PGTW 240300
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVMARFCSTCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR TROPICAL STORM 26W (NIDA)
WARNING NR 09//
RMKS/
1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
2. 12 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.
A. TROPICAL STORM (TS) 26W (NIDA), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 290 NM
SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF GUAM, HAS TRACKED WESTWARD AT 08 KNOTS OVER THE
PAST SIX HOURS. ANIMATED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATES THAT TS
26W HAS CONTINUED TO CONSOLIDATE OVER THE PAST 12 HOURS AND HAS
DEVELOPED A CENTRAL DENSE OVERCAST. A 23/2139Z TRMM 37 GHZ IMAGE
DEPICTS IMPROVED ORGANIZATION WITH TIGHTLY-CURVED BANDING AND A
FORMATIVE MICROWAVE EYE FEATURE. THERE IS HIGH CONFIDENCE IN THE
CURRENT POSITION BASED ON THE MICROWAVE EYE SIGNATURE. THE CURRENT
INTENSITY OF 55 KNOTS IS ASSESSED SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN THE
DVORAK ESTIMATES OF 35-45 KNOTS FROM PGTW, KNES AND RJTD. THIS IS
BASED ON THE TIGHTLY-CURVED BANDING AND MICROWAVE EYE FEATURE.
ANIMATED WATER VAPOR IMAGERY INDICATES GOOD RADIAL OUTFLOW ENHANCED
BY AN UPPER-LOW NEAR 25N 165E.
3. FORECAST REASONING.
A. NO CHANGE IN FORECAST PHILOSOPHY ALTHOUGH TRACK SPEEDS HAVE
BEEN INCREASED AT THE LATER TAUS.
B. TS 26W IS CURRENTLY TRACKING UNDER THE STEERING INFLUENCE OF
THE MID-LEVEL SUBTROPICAL RIDGE POSITIONED NORTH OF THE SYSTEM. UPPER
AIR DATA FROM GUAM INDICATES DEEP EASTERLY FLOW UP TO 300 MB
SUPPORTING A STRONG EAST-WEST ORIENTED STR. THE JGSM TRACKER REMAINS
AN OBVIOUS OUTLIER WITH A NORTHWARD TRACK; THIS IS ASSESSED AS
ERRONEOUS BASED ON THE CURRENT ORIENTATION AND STRENGTH OF THE STR
TO THE NORTH. THE REMAINING GUIDANCE (ECMWF, GFDN, NOGAPS, UKMO,
TC-LAPS AND WBAR) IS IN TIGHT AGREEMENT THROUGH TAU 48 BUT QUICKLY
DIVERGE WITH TWO DISTINCT GROUPINGS. NOGAPS, GFDN, AND UKMO TRACK THE
SYSTEM WESTWARD AFTER TAU 72 WHILE ECMWF, TC-LAPS AND WBAR INDICATE
A MORE NORTHWESTWARD TRACK. THIS FORECAST IS CLOSE TO THE MODEL
CONSENSUS THROUGH TAU 72. TS 26W IS EXPECTED TO INTENSIFY AT A
10 KNOT PER DAY RATE.
C. IN THE EXTENDED TAUS, AS MENTIONED IN PARA 3.B., THERE IS
MORE UNCERTAINTY WITH TWO GROUPINGS OF MODEL TRACKERS. THIS
UNCERTAINTY IS THE RESULT OF THE MODEL'S DIFFERENT DEPICTION OF
THE STR AND MIDLATITUDE FLOW PATTERN SOUTH OF JAPAN. BASICALLY,
THE SYSTEM WILL EITHER STAIR-STEP OR RE-CURVE. IT IS A LITTLE EARLY
TO STATE WITH CONFIDENCE WHICH IS MORE LIKELY, HOWEVER, THE
RE-CURVE SCENARIO IS MORE LIKELY CLIMATOLOGICALLY AND IS SUPPORTED
BY THE LATEST ECMWF EXTENDED FIELDS WHICH MAINTAIN A WEAKNESS IN
THE STR AFTER TAU 72 AND TRACK THE SYSTEM POLEWARD. TS 26W SHOULD
CONTINUE TO INTENSIFY UNDER FAVORABLE CONDITIONS WITH ENHANCED
POLEWARD OUTFLOW INTO THE MIDLATITUDE WESTERLY FLOW.//
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#108 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:32 pm

Eye trying to pop out - this looks very close to, if not a, typhoon. 60 kt would be my guess (pressure 985mb).
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#109 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:33 pm

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#110 Postby oaba09 » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:07 pm

Still seems to be moving westwards....It looks like jma and jtwc will again make changes in their next advisory....
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Re: WPAC : TROPICAL STORM NIDA (26W)

#111 Postby cycloneye » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:18 pm

Tropical Storm Watch for FAIS AND ULITHI

http://www.prh.noaa.gov/guam/cyclone.php

BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM NIDA (26W) ADVISORY NUMBER 9
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TIYAN GU WP262009
200 PM CHST TUE NOV 24 2009

...TROPICAL STORM WATCH NOW IN EFFECT FOR FAIS AND ULITHI...

AS OF 100 PM...A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR FAIS AND
ULITHI. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR FARAULEP.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING MEANS TROPICAL STORM-FORCE WINDS...BETWEEN
39 AND 73 MPH...ARE OCCURRING OR EXPECTED TO OCCUR WITHIN THE NEXT
12 HOURS. A TROPICAL STORM WATCH MEANS TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE
POSSIBLE WITHIN 24 TO 48 HOUS.

AT 100 PM CHST...0300Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM NIDA WAS
NEAR LATITUDE 8.7 DEGREES NORTH AND LONGITUDE 145.1 DEGREES EAST.

THIS IS ABOUT 40 MILES EAST OF FARAULEP
120 MILES NORTHEAST OF WOLEAI
330 MILES SOUTH OF GUAM
380 MILES EAST-SOUTHEAST OF ULITHI
320 MILES EAST-SOUTHEAST OF FAIS.
480 MILES EAST OF YAP.

TROPICAL STORM NIDA IS MOVING WEST TOWARD THE ISLAND OF FARAULEP...
AT AROUND 9 MPH. IT IS EXPECTED TO MOVE WEST-NORTHWEST DURING THE
NEXT 24 HOURS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE 65 MPH. NIDA IS EXPECTED TO INTENSIFY
OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS. TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 90 MILES FROM THE CENTER.

REPEATING THE 100 PM POSITION...LATITUDE 8.7 DEGREES NORTH AND
LONGITUDE 145.1 DEGREES EAST...MOVING WEST AT 9 MPH WITH MAXIMUM
SUSTAINED WINDS OF 65 MPH.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER
SERVICE AT 500 PM CHST...FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT SCHEDULED ADVISORY
AT 800 PM TONIGHT.

$$

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#112 Postby oaba09 » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:23 pm

******Interesting...it lost latitude

200911240000 8.6 145.6
200911231800 8.9 146.4
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#113 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:34 pm

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#114 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:53 pm

Doesn't quite have that typhoon look yet as the eyewall still has a large opening. Still looks to be about 60 kt.
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Re: WPAC : TROPICAL STORM NIDA (26W)

#115 Postby JTE50 » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:59 pm

I'm sitting here at the TGIF in Tumon Bay, Guam. We just had a nice shower pass by. Folks eating lunch had to run inside real quick when the tarp cover started leaking. Still solid overcast with light rain and a stiff breeze. Waves along the reef are noticeably bigger today.
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#116 Postby oaba09 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:48 am

0300z prognostic reasoning from JTWC
****************************
The models are still split however, it is important to take note that some models are predicting a western movement from Nida....IMO, the Philippines, Taiwan, and Japan needs to be prepared because of the uncertainty
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WDPN31 PGTW 240300
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVMARFCSTCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR TROPICAL STORM 26W (NIDA)
WARNING NR 09//
RMKS/
1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
2. 12 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.
A. TROPICAL STORM (TS) 26W (NIDA), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 290 NM
SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF GUAM, HAS TRACKED WESTWARD AT 08 KNOTS OVER THE
PAST SIX HOURS. ANIMATED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATES THAT TS
26W HAS CONTINUED TO CONSOLIDATE OVER THE PAST 12 HOURS AND HAS
DEVELOPED A CENTRAL DENSE OVERCAST. A 23/2139Z TRMM 37 GHZ IMAGE
DEPICTS IMPROVED ORGANIZATION WITH TIGHTLY-CURVED BANDING AND A
FORMATIVE MICROWAVE EYE FEATURE. THERE IS HIGH CONFIDENCE IN THE
CURRENT POSITION BASED ON THE MICROWAVE EYE SIGNATURE. THE CURRENT
INTENSITY OF 55 KNOTS IS ASSESSED SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN THE
DVORAK ESTIMATES OF 35-45 KNOTS FROM PGTW, KNES AND RJTD. THIS IS
BASED ON THE TIGHTLY-CURVED BANDING AND MICROWAVE EYE FEATURE.
ANIMATED WATER VAPOR IMAGERY INDICATES GOOD RADIAL OUTFLOW ENHANCED
BY AN UPPER-LOW NEAR 25N 165E.
3. FORECAST REASONING.
A. NO CHANGE IN FORECAST PHILOSOPHY ALTHOUGH TRACK SPEEDS HAVE
BEEN INCREASED AT THE LATER TAUS.
B. TS 26W IS CURRENTLY TRACKING UNDER THE STEERING INFLUENCE OF
THE MID-LEVEL SUBTROPICAL RIDGE POSITIONED NORTH OF THE SYSTEM. UPPER
AIR DATA FROM GUAM INDICATES DEEP EASTERLY FLOW UP TO 300 MB
SUPPORTING A STRONG EAST-WEST ORIENTED STR. THE JGSM TRACKER REMAINS
AN OBVIOUS OUTLIER WITH A NORTHWARD TRACK; THIS IS ASSESSED AS
ERRONEOUS BASED ON THE CURRENT ORIENTATION AND STRENGTH OF THE STR
TO THE NORTH. THE REMAINING GUIDANCE (ECMWF, GFDN, NOGAPS, UKMO,
TC-LAPS AND WBAR) IS IN TIGHT AGREEMENT THROUGH TAU 48 BUT QUICKLY
DIVERGE WITH TWO DISTINCT GROUPINGS. NOGAPS, GFDN, AND UKMO TRACK THE
SYSTEM WESTWARD AFTER TAU 72 WHILE ECMWF, TC-LAPS AND WBAR INDICATE
A MORE NORTHWESTWARD TRACK. THIS FORECAST IS CLOSE TO THE MODEL
CONSENSUS THROUGH TAU 72. TS 26W IS EXPECTED TO INTENSIFY AT A
10 KNOT PER DAY RATE.
C. IN THE EXTENDED TAUS, AS MENTIONED IN PARA 3.B., THERE IS
MORE UNCERTAINTY WITH TWO GROUPINGS OF MODEL TRACKERS. THIS
UNCERTAINTY IS THE RESULT OF THE MODEL'S DIFFERENT DEPICTION OF
THE STR AND MIDLATITUDE FLOW PATTERN SOUTH OF JAPAN. BASICALLY,
THE SYSTEM WILL EITHER STAIR-STEP OR RE-CURVE. IT IS A LITTLE EARLY
TO STATE WITH CONFIDENCE WHICH IS MORE LIKELY, HOWEVER, THE
RE-CURVE SCENARIO IS MORE LIKELY CLIMATOLOGICALLY AND IS SUPPORTED
BY THE LATEST ECMWF EXTENDED FIELDS WHICH MAINTAIN A WEAKNESS IN
THE STR AFTER TAU 72 AND TRACK THE SYSTEM POLEWARD. TS 26W SHOULD
CONTINUE TO INTENSIFY UNDER FAVORABLE CONDITIONS WITH ENHANCED
POLEWARD OUTFLOW INTO THE MIDLATITUDE WESTERLY FLOW.//
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#117 Postby StormingB81 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:55 am

You know there are some Japanese peole here talking with them that are very nervous because liek I said it has been 2 1/2 years since one is hit and they believe when the next one comes it will be a big one. I couldn't believe how nervous they where on thinking the next when will be a big one.
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#118 Postby Macrocane » Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:58 am

StormingB81 wrote:You know there are some Japanese peole here talking with them that are very nervous because liek I said it has been 2 1/2 years since one is hit and they believe when the next one comes it will be a big one. I couldn't believe how nervous they where on thinking the next when will be a big one.


Wasn't Japan hit by Melor earlier this year?
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#119 Postby StormingB81 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:10 am

Sorry. Ill be more specific. Okinawa Hasn't been hit in 2 1/2 years.
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#120 Postby oaba09 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:14 am

moving very slowly generally westwards right now....
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