ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ALEX - MODELS

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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ALEX - MODELS

#1001 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:28 pm

174..UPPER TEXAS COAST

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That makes the Nam, Gfs, and Canadian move north to Texas..just something to watch
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#1002 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:30 pm

:D :D Just dont see that happening. GFS has something different EVERY run.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ALEX - MODELS

#1003 Postby South Texas Storms » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:30 pm

ivan is the trend now further north on the models?
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ALEX - MODELS

#1004 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:32 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:ivan is the trend now further north on the models?


Some, not all. Consensus is still Mexico
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ALEX - MODELS

#1005 Postby ronjon » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:32 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:ivan is the trend now further north on the models?


Well we have 3 as IH mentioned now moving toward the Tx coast. I suspect the 18Z GFDL may shift northward too since its run off the GFS grid.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ALEX - MODELS

#1006 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:37 pm

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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ALEX - MODELS

#1007 Postby ROCK » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:45 pm

That GFS run will not turn the models...again it over doing the trof...... :roll:
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ALEX - MODELS

#1008 Postby KWT » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:45 pm

ronjon wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:ivan is the trend now further north on the models?


Well we have 3 as IH mentioned now moving toward the Tx coast. I suspect the 18Z GFDL may shift northward too since its run off the GFS grid.


The three that have shifted are the three that nearly always are too quick to break down upper high features, if the eCM shifted northwards it'd get my attention but given the last 36hrs of motion, I see no reason why the GFS should verifiy to be honest, I know the last 36hts isn't always the important thing but its barely shifted from its 280 track despite what the models were calling for...
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ALEX - MODELS

#1009 Postby perk » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:46 pm

ronjon wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:ivan is the trend now further north on the models?


Well we have 3 as IH mentioned now moving toward the Tx coast. I suspect the 18Z GFDL may shift northward too since its run off the GFS grid.

Other than the GFS what other two are moving toward Texas.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ALEX - MODELS

#1010 Postby ROCK » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:47 pm

I agree...if the EURO shifts tonight....dam, I might have to stay up tonight....crap... :lol:
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ALEX - MODELS

#1011 Postby ROCK » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:47 pm

perk wrote:
ronjon wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:ivan is the trend now further north on the models?


Well we have 3 as IH mentioned now moving toward the Tx coast. I suspect the 18Z GFDL may shift northward too since its run off the GFS grid.

Other than the GFS what other two are moving toward Texas.




the almighty NAM.... :D
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ALEX - MODELS

#1012 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:50 pm

ROCK wrote:


the almighty NAM.... :D


And Canadian, which remember was the best model in the 3 to 5 day range last year :wink:
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ALEX - MODELS

#1013 Postby South Texas Storms » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:52 pm

ivan you think texas is not out of the woods yet?
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#1014 Postby KWT » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:52 pm

Actually ECM was the best last year, I heard it actually beat the NHC last year at some ranges!

I think unless we see major signs of the system lifting out the three that are further north are out to lunch..of course it all needs watching still...
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#1015 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:53 pm

KWT wrote:Actually ECM was the best last year, I heard it actually beat the NHC last year at some ranges!

I think unless we see major signs of the system lifting out the three that are further north are out to lunch..of course it all needs watching still...
EURO was the best!!
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ALEX - MODELS

#1016 Postby ROCK » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:54 pm

Ivanhater wrote:
ROCK wrote:


the almighty NAM.... :D


And Canadian, which remember was the best model in the 3 to 5 day range last year :wink:


yeah yeah....see you at 1:30 am .... :D
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ECMWF versus UKM

#1017 Postby hcane27 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:55 pm

I know that there tends to be a "love fest" for the ECMWF ... but the UKM has had Mexico pegged since the run of 6/21 12z .... the ECMWF on the other hand did not "see" the Mexico solution until the 6/23 12z run ..... and actually picked Texas as late as the 6/24 12z run .... just thought I would this out there for discussion
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ALEX - MODELS

#1018 Postby xironman » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:55 pm

Within 96 hours the GFS is not nearly as wretched as it is in the longer range. If it and the CGEM hold serve for the 0z then it could be interesting.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ALEX - MODELS

#1019 Postby Rainband » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:55 pm

Great news, the GOM is already a mess with the oil .....We don't need a storm in the mix..no pun intended..
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#1020 Postby ROCK » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:55 pm

KFDM Meteorologist wrote:
KWT wrote:Actually ECM was the best last year, I heard it actually beat the NHC last year at some ranges!

I think unless we see major signs of the system lifting out the three that are further north are out to lunch..of course it all needs watching still...
EURO was the best!!


the EURO did sniff out IKE before any other model in 08......but it failed bad with Charley in 04...

pretty sure its been tweaked since then...
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