ATL: EX-Tropical Depression FIVE - Discussion

[Aric Dunn]

going to be a increasing waterspout and tornado threat today over florida and the near shore. already one report of a waterspout moved ashore on the east coast of floorida

[Stormcenter]

For those who still care if you speed up the loop below you can clearly see center south of Mobile that doesn't seem to be moving much in the last few hours.


http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satelli ... uration=12

[Brent]

From 1 PM CDT Intermediate Advisory:

BULLETIN
TROPICAL DEPRESSION FIVE INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 4A
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL052010
100 PM CDT WED AUG 11 2010

SATELLITE AND SURFACE OBSERVATIONS INDICATE THAT THE DEPRESSION IS
LOSING ORGANIZATION AND COULD DISSIPATE LATER TODAY.

LOL

What a joke. Again...

[poof121]

Strangely enough, CIMSS products saying the greatest 850 mb vorticity near Tampa...

[StormClouds63]

The year of the ULL!

This is from a professional, and he's saying the same thing many of us on the board have been observing for several weeks. Sea surface temperatures are incredibly warm, but that means nothing when the upper air environment remains hostile.

[brunota2003]

Has this depression even qualified as a tropical cyclone at all? Seriously?

Tropical Cyclone:
A warm-core non-frontal synoptic-scale cyclone, originating over tropical or subtropical waters, with organized deep convection and a closed surface wind circulation about a well-defined center. Once formed, a tropical cyclone is maintained by the extraction of heat energy from the ocean at high temperature and heat export at the low temperatures of the upper troposphere. In this they differ from extratropical cyclones, which derive their energy from horizontal temperature contrasts in the atmosphere (baroclinic effects).

Where is the organized deep convection? The convection has never been deep, much less organized.

[cwachal]

Recon was in there yesterday and we were all saying why wouldn't they call it a depression then so yes it did qualify as a TC and since they still have advisories out then I would say it still does qualify as a TC

[Stormcenter]

It's funny that's what many of the so called experts keep on hyping......the warm SSTs.

The year of the ULL!

This is from a professional, and he's saying the same thing many of us on the board have been observing for several weeks. Sea surface temperatures are incredibly warm, but that means nothing when the upper air environment remains hostile.

[Acral]

Warm SST's so far this year mean that the 3 ft waves generated by the Blob of a TD will be bathwater warm. See? The science speaks for itself.

[HURAKAN]

Just a little too broad, just a little!! lol

[Stormcenter]

For entertainment purposes.

http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.ph ... 1&loop=yes

[N2Storms]

Just waiting for it to be officially given it's death certificate...

[Ikester]

People really need to get over the SST's. They mean nothing if the upper-levels are not cooperative. Seas could be 200 degrees F and you have high shear, forget it. If they were absolutely necessary, then how come we had Hurricane Epsilon (waters ~72 degrees F) or Tropical Storm Zeta in January (waters ~70 degrees F), or Hurricane Alice in 1954...another January storm. There are others that have formed in April and May, too. SST's from what I have read and been told by other pro mets is the gulf waters are the warmest on record..surpassing that of 2005. If that's the case, how come 'Katrina' or 'Rita' hasn't formed yet?

[HURAKAN]

The intensity of the winds is laughable

[Aric Dunn]

recon went out..lol

[BigA]

This thing's only hope is to form it's center father to the southeast, near the convective cluster. What a pathetic thing, never should have been classified a depression.

[cycloneye]

18z Best Track

AL, 05, 2010081118, , BEST, 0, 280N, 873W, 25, 1009, TD

Still a TD.

[Stormcenter]

Still spinning south of Mobile. It looks like it's trying to consolidate somewhat but heck with this thing it could be just a mirage.

http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satelli ... uration=12

[Tampa Bay Hurricane]

Not really impressive except for the convective cluster further SE...but
still not impressive.

[HurricaneBelle]

Time to upgrade immediately to Hurricane Danielle:

http://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/ASOS/c ... rk=FL_ASOS

PUNTA GORDA,FL (PGD) ASOS reports gust of 118.0 knots from W @ 1841Z