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#201 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:10 am

bvigal wrote:
HUC wrote:Why Igor not yet on Goes floater???

HUC - goes range for floaters is at about 30W, see http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/catl/vis-l.jpg


Is moving so slow that it may be tommorow when the floater is up.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm IGOR - Discussion

#202 Postby tolakram » Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:28 am

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#203 Postby canes101 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:59 am

HUC, Igor is JUST ABOUT in range of the floater.. They may put it up tonight
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#204 Postby KWT » Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:02 am

Looks like Igor is moving northwards right over the Islands right now, will be interesting to see the wind profile soon...
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm IGOR - Discussion

#205 Postby HUC » Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:19 am

Thank's friends,i got it.
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#206 Postby SootyTern » Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:31 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:
KWT wrote:The models are still very keen to make this a hurricane as well so I've got no reason to believe this one won't make it past the relativly less condusive set-up aloft right now.


Sounds a lot like Gaston.


I thought Gaston didn't have any model support until he popped up, and the dynamic models didn't do much with him anyways.
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#207 Postby OuterBanker » Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:54 pm

Mets correct me on this if I’m wrong. But to me it seems that Igor is a classic example of the Fujiwara effect. Igor appeared to be pulled north (hence the north movement) toward the other area that was highlighted yesterday by the TPC. In other words they combined into one system. Steering once the combination fully completes should push Igor west.
Ps I think that Igor should be a fish or at least not threaten the Outer Banks for a couple reasons. 1- We have already had our turn. 2 – Had my transfer switch installed yesterday and connected the generator to determine that is fully functional.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm IGOR - Discussion

#208 Postby dwsqos2 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:02 pm

Oh, this is miles from Gaston. For one Igor's low-level circulation is far better defined than Gaston's could ever have hoped to be.

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=13001

This is a time-sensitive link, but even now 13001 is reporting SSW winds of 17.1 knots, and Igor is a pretty respectable distance from it.

Oh, and the globals spit out a bunch of closed isobars in the short term.

I will say, as a complete guess, that the nhc is probably going to be too high with intensity in the 0-72 or even 96 hour range, and probably too low thereafter. Although I hate even mentioning SSTs, Igor will be passing over a rather marginally conducive ocean, this will be another limiting factor for development. Toss in some easterly shear in the short term, and yeah intensification could be delayed.

This is unofficial and all that.
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#209 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:12 pm

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#210 Postby Wthrman13 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:27 pm

OuterBanker wrote:Mets correct me on this if I’m wrong. But to me it seems that Igor is a classic example of the Fujiwara effect. Igor appeared to be pulled north (hence the north movement) toward the other area that was highlighted yesterday by the TPC. In other words they combined into one system. Steering once the combination fully completes should push Igor west.
Ps I think that Igor should be a fish or at least not threaten the Outer Banks for a couple reasons. 1- We have already had our turn. 2 – Had my transfer switch installed yesterday and connected the generator to determine that is fully functional.


I don't think the Fujiwhara effect was responsible for that interaction. The effect causes vortices to rotate around each other due to mutual advection of each other's wind field. In the case of counterclockwise-rotating (cyclonic in the NH) vortices, they would rotate around each other, also counterclockwise, and slowly. This means that Igor should have been pulled east as it rotated around the other low to it's NE. It depends on where the other low ended up in relation to Igor before it dissipated/was absorbed. If it made it to the NW side of Igor, then I can see a north movement due to the Fujiwhara effect.

Otherwise, some other detail of the interaction was likely the cause of the short-term NNW movement. Without more information, and I confess I wasn't looking at it too closely, it's hard to say.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm IGOR - Discussion

#211 Postby MGC » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:30 pm

Igor looks to be a TD to me....Igor should ramp up quickly once the shear lets up.......MGC
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm IGOR - Discussion

#212 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:38 pm

18z Best Track

AL, 11, 2010090918, , BEST, 0, 156N, 256W, 35, 1005, TS

ftp://ftp.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/ ... 010.invest

Remains as a tropical Storm.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm IGOR - Discussion

#213 Postby hurricaneCW » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:44 pm

It's already past 15N, perhaps the the subtropical high could push it back further south, but that's a huge sign of a recurving system if it's north of 15, east of 40W.
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#214 Postby dwsqos2 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:53 pm

Well, the Euro is certainly robust. If another meteorologist on another site is correct the 12Z hour 192 pressure prog (905 mb) would be the most intense hurricane ever modeled by the Euro. Of course it tried to do the same to Fiona, so let us see if the squirrel has found its nut.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm IGOR - Discussion

#215 Postby hurricaneCW » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:03 pm

It's a very strange la nina so far, for a la nina at this strength I would expect a strong SE ridge, not a broad Western Atlantic trough pattern. I guess that means that by winter, the SE ridge will return and completely bake us.
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#216 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:09 pm

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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression IGOR - Discussion

#217 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:41 pm

Downgraded to TD.

LOCATION...16.0N 26.4W
ABOUT 155 MI...255 KM WNW OF THE SOUTHERNMOST CAPE VERDE ISLANDS
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...35 MPH...55 KM/HR
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 325 DEGREES AT 13 MPH...20 KM/HR
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1004 MB...29.65 INCHES

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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression IGOR - Discussion

#218 Postby TheBurn » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:46 pm

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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression IGOR - Discussion

#219 Postby Migle » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:49 pm

cycloneye wrote:18z Best Track

AL, 11, 2010090918, , BEST, 0, 156N, 256W, 35, 1005, TS

ftp://ftp.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/ ... 010.invest

Remains as a tropical Storm.


So BT fails again. This just happened the other day when it had TD-11E as a TS
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#220 Postby ConvergenceZone » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:50 pm

Is this going to be another Gaston where we get upgrades, then downgrades, then upgrades?
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