ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ALEX - MODELS

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Re: ATL : HURRICANE ALEX - MODELS

#2161 Postby TwisterFanatic » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:58 am

Did any other Model shift north also?
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#2162 Postby KWT » Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:06 am

Well the GFS may not have been so far off afterall from Saturday, because it did forecast it to slow right down and then slowly trend WNW/NW....the difference was the models that did that did it inland...the fact its happening offshore is very important indeed...
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Re: ATL : HURRICANE ALEX - MODELS

#2163 Postby clfenwi » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:06 am

18Z GFDl forecast a northward bump in latitude. Oddly, however, the 00Z did not and because of that the 18Z is doing better. 12 nautical miles too far northwest at the 18h/12Z point

WHXX04 KWBC 292322
CHGQLM
ATTENTION...NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER

NCEP COUPLED GFDL HURRICANE MODEL FORECAST MADE FOR

TROPICAL STORM ALEX 01L

INITIAL TIME 18Z JUN 29

DISCLAIMER ... THIS INFORMATION IS PROVIDED AS GUIDANCE. IT
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NOT BE CONSIDERED AS A FINAL PRODUCT. PLEASE SEE THE TPC/NHC
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FORECAST STORM POSITION

HOUR LATITUDE LONGITUDE HEADING/SPEED(KT)

0 23.0 93.6 315./11.1
6 22.9 94.5 267./ 7.9
12 23.0 94.9 282./ 4.3
18 23.6 95.5 319./ 8.0

24 24.0 96.4 289./ 9.0
30 24.1 97.3 279./ 8.2
36 23.8 98.3 252./10.0
42 22.9 99.7 237./15.3
48 22.5 101.4 258./16.2
54 22.6 103.3 271./17.2
60 23.1 105.5 283./20.9
66 24.2 107.2 303./20.0
72 25.6 108.7 314./19.0
78 26.6 109.4 323./12.3
84 28.4 111.1 316./22.8
90 28.6 111.6 298./ 4.8
96 32.3 114.0 327./41.8

STORM DISSIPATED AT 96 HRS AT THE ABOVE PSN.
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#2164 Postby KWT » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:14 am

Also note the way it slowed the system down alot there before slowly picking up speed again, looks like that GFDL run is doing fairly well for now.
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Re: ATL : HURRICANE ALEX - MODELS

#2165 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:17 am

The FSU site has less models now. I would like to see the ECMWF included there. :)

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/tcgengifs/
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Re: ATL : HURRICANE ALEX - MODELS

#2166 Postby Nederlander » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:56 am

I cant see this riding up the coast as others have proposed.. there is a ridge bearing down across the central plains, and yes, the ridge is over Oklahoma as well.. I think the problem is the Atlantic ridge hasnt built solidly yet.. but i do look for Alex to get some steering back tonight and move inland tomorrow..
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#2167 Postby ROCK » Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:50 am

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#2168 Postby Evil Jeremy » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:41 am

12z GFS running. Showing Alex running west right into Mexico without gaining much latitude from where it is now.
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Re: ATL : HURRICANE ALEX - MODELS

#2169 Postby Wx_Warrior » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:00 am

gfs para 24h (operational is garbage)

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#2170 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:01 am

Its going to have to hit a left turn immediatly for the GFS and NAM to verify on landfall. I mean, going to have to turn right now.
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Re: ATL : HURRICANE ALEX - MODELS

#2171 Postby Wx_Warrior » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:02 am

From an earlier request, the almighty EURO (0z)

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#2172 Postby KWT » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:27 am

Hmm with this northerly jog looks like the end result maybe a draw between the GFS/ECM with something close to the middle line in terms of distance error...though I think ECM may *just* win it due to how consistant it has been.
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#2173 Postby brunota2003 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:33 am

LBAR or CLP5...depending on if it goes that far north.
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#2174 Postby txagwxman » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:05 pm

Euro has another Brownsville storm late next week.
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#2175 Postby RachelAnna » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:18 pm

txagwxman wrote:Euro has another Brownsville storm late next week.


Crazy. I know it's early, but any inkling that if it's gonna be a system that stays south, or is there a chance it'll head north?!
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#2176 Postby somethingfunny » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:50 pm

txagwxman wrote:Euro has another Brownsville storm late next week.


That's good news for Brownsville when you consider that last week the Euro had Alex hitting between Pensacola and New Orleans.
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#2177 Postby txagwxman » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:52 pm

RachelAnna wrote:
txagwxman wrote:Euro has another Brownsville storm late next week.


Crazy. I know it's early, but any inkling that if it's gonna be a system that stays south, or is there a chance it'll head north?!

Should stay south, but it is 9 days out...so who really knows.
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#2178 Postby KWT » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:52 pm

To be fair the 12z ECM has a closed low, probably not even a TD yet alone anything stronger!

Well been very interesting to watch the models try and work out the first hurricane of the season!
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#2179 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:57 pm

somethingfunny wrote:
txagwxman wrote:Euro has another Brownsville storm late next week.


That's good news for Brownsville when you consider that last week the Euro had Alex hitting between Pensacola and New Orleans.
At least it shows something that far out.
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#2180 Postby Seadootoo » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:04 pm

KFDM Meteorologist wrote:
somethingfunny wrote:
txagwxman wrote:Euro has another Brownsville storm late next week.


That's good news for Brownsville when you consider that last week the Euro had Alex hitting between Pensacola and New Orleans.
At least it shows something that far out.




Oh no.....here we go again
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