ATL: Ex Tropical Storm EARL - Discussion

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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2621 Postby Hurricanewatcher2007 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:05 pm

UpTheCreek wrote:No change to the NHC cone for the last 3 advisories, including tonight's 11 pm:

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2010/gr ... p_5W.shtml


Where did you read that there was no changes?

From the discussion:

THE OFFICIAL TRACK FORECAST IS...ONCE AGAIN...
SHIFTED SLIGHTLY WESTWARD FROM THE PREVIOUS ONE AND IS VERY CLOSE
TO THE MULTI-MODEL CONSENSUS.

It's been shifting west with every update almost!
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2622 Postby TheBurn » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:06 pm

Florida1118 wrote:
TheBurn wrote:I have to say... TWC just had a pretty 'on point' piece on the steering scenario. Not bad at all.

Really? earlier they spent 1-2 min on earl and didnt even show his path on their tropical update...spent more time on sunsets and light rain falling. So much for "The hurricane Authority". Cant say they got it easy or I could do better but a few moment on a important storm would be nice.

Yeah, it was not part of the TU. It was their opening at 10:30.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2623 Postby UpTheCreek » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:07 pm

Hurricanewatcher2007 wrote:
UpTheCreek wrote:No change to the NHC cone for the last 3 advisories, including tonight's 11 pm:

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2010/gr ... p_5W.shtml


Where did you read that there was no changes?

From the discussion:

THE OFFICIAL TRACK FORECAST IS...ONCE AGAIN...
SHIFTED SLIGHTLY WESTWARD FROM THE PREVIOUS ONE AND IS VERY CLOSE
TO THE MULTI-MODEL CONSENSUS.

It's been shifting west with every update almost!


I edited my original post. I also posted a few above yours admitting my error. Thank you for catching it, just like the last 4 people that posted about it!
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2624 Postby Hurritrax » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:09 pm

Yep, there's still a margin of error this far out of about 150 miles east or west....Here's a perfect example of people following the black line and not looking at the entire cone. All of Eastern NC, especially the Outer Banks should be watching Earl closely.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2625 Postby seussianagenda » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:12 pm

Longggggggg time lurker her. Do we have any way to gauge storm surge with this thing. I'm in Norfolk, Va in a VERY low-lying area next to the elizabeth river. Can anyone advise? Great board everyone.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2626 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:15 pm

Well earl's appearance is definitely starting to improve again. The eye is looking especially circular now, and the weakness in convection on the east side is starting to fill in with bands developing east of there as well. Another strengthening phase may be in order soon.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2627 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:16 pm

seussianagenda wrote:Longggggggg time lurker her. Do we have any way to gauge storm surge with this thing. I'm in Norfolk, Va in a VERY low-lying area next to the elizabeth river. Can anyone advise? Great board everyone.


You should be able to contact your local EOC and get any and all flood prone info.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2628 Postby SouthFLTropics » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:19 pm

seussianagenda wrote:Longggggggg time lurker her. Do we have any way to gauge storm surge with this thing. I'm in Norfolk, Va in a VERY low-lying area next to the elizabeth river. Can anyone advise? Great board everyone.


Here is a link to some storm surge information from VA...Hope this helps...

http://www.vdem.state.va.us/threats/hur ... msurge.cfm

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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2629 Postby Texas Snowman » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:22 pm

THE OFFICIAL TRACK FORECAST IS...ONCE AGAIN...
SHIFTED SLIGHTLY WESTWARD FROM THE PREVIOUS ONE AND IS VERY CLOSE
TO THE MULTI-MODEL CONSENSUS.

INTERESTS FROM THE CAROLINAS NORTHWARD TO NEW ENGLAND SHOULD MONITOR
THE PROGRESS OF EARL. THERE IS STILL CONSIDERABLE UNCERTAINTY AS
TO HOW CLOSE THE HURRICANE WILL COME TO THE U.S. EAST COAST.


Go ask people in SW Florida about the uncertainty of hurricanes (Hurricane Charley in 2004) and them not doing what they are supposed to.

IMO, this is going to be a real problem for someone on the east coast.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2630 Postby seussianagenda » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:25 pm

I'm really a little worried here in Norfolk. We've had some bad experiences with hurricanes and Nor'easters, just none this big. If this thing gets within 50 miles of Norfolk, you'll see some deaths. NO ONE here seems to take hurricanes seriously.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2631 Postby Stratosphere747 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:25 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:
seussianagenda wrote:Longggggggg time lurker her. Do we have any way to gauge storm surge with this thing. I'm in Norfolk, Va in a VERY low-lying area next to the elizabeth river. Can anyone advise? Great board everyone.


Here is a link to some storm surge information from VA...Hope this helps...

http://www.vdem.state.va.us/threats/hur ... msurge.cfm

SFT



To add, this is data specifically for Norfolk -

http://www.norfolk.gov/emergency/intera ... e_maps.asp
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2632 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:28 pm

a jog to the west again a hugh jog????????????



http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-wv.html
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2633 Postby SunnyThoughts » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:28 pm

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#2634 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:29 pm

it is just amazing to see an ERC take place within radar range... very rare and I have only seen it once before and it never really finished since it made landfall..
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#2635 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:30 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:it is just amazing to see an ERC take place within radar range... very rare and I have only seen it once before and it never really finished since it made landfall..



aric it made a westward jog/wobble again what do you think???????
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2636 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:31 pm

seussianagenda wrote:I'm really a little worried here in Norfolk. We've had some bad experiences with hurricanes and Nor'easters, just none this big. If this thing gets within 50 miles of Norfolk, you'll see some deaths. NO ONE here seems to take hurricanes seriously.


It will take just one to change all that.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2637 Postby UpTheCreek » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:31 pm

Can someone explain to me what's happening to the NW quadrant of Earl? It looks like it's hitting a brick wall in this water vapor loop. Is the wall of dry air doing that to it? What kind of effect can that dry air have on Earl?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-wv.html
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2638 Postby Brent » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:33 pm

Very impressive.

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#2639 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:33 pm

It does seem to appear Earl may keep pushing more west than the next forecast point. Perhaps another shift?
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2640 Postby rosethornil » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:34 pm

seussianagenda wrote:I'm really a little worried here in Norfolk. We've had some bad experiences with hurricanes and Nor'easters, just none this big. If this thing gets within 50 miles of Norfolk, you'll see some deaths. NO ONE here seems to take hurricanes seriously.


Seussianagenda, I agree with you. Post-1970s houses are not built to withstand real storms, IMHO.

I'm in Colonial Place (in Norfolk), that nice old neighborhood built on FILL DIRT, that peninsula that juts out into the Elizabeth River!!!! The last "bad" storm we had was the Ash Wednesday Storm in 1962. There's been a whole lot of building going on since that storm in 1962.

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