ATL: Ex Tropical Storm EARL - Discussion

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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#3301 Postby plasticup » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:40 am

emeraldislencguy wrote:yes the site is broken here too
hope they get it fixed soon
can someone post some other sites

Some here:
http://www.goes.noaa.gov/g8hu.html
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#3302 Postby Frank2 » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:41 am

NHC site is up as usual - are you trying to use Java instead of Flash (Java is no longer supported on the NHC site)?
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#3303 Postby Julanne » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:41 am

Does anyone think we'll see Hurricane Watches tonight for Southeastern Massachusetts?
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#3304 Postby plasticup » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:42 am

Frank2 wrote:NHC site is up as usual...

I'm still getting 404'd...
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#3305 Postby emeraldislencguy » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:42 am

it is up but it will not let me pull up satellite images
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#3306 Postby TheBurn » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:42 am

emeraldislencguy wrote:yes the site is broken here too
hope they get it fixed soon
can someone post some other sites

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#3307 Postby OuterBanker » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:43 am

The front is a bit stronger and slower. Not what we want. Also, if Earl speeds up just a little he will arrive closer to the coast. Again, it's a timing thing.
One other note, tourists don't seem to be the least concerned. It is a beautiful sunny day and there isn’t enough wind to fly my hurricane flags.
Perfect surfing waves, about four to six feet and clean. Hundreds of surfers are in the water.

I guess none of them have been through a hurricane before and have no idea how quickly things can change.

Day of reckoning ahead I'm afraid.
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#3308 Postby plasticup » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:43 am

Frank2 wrote:are you trying to use Java instead of Flash (Java is no longer supported on the NHC site)?

I've tried all of their imagery products and none seem to work.
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#3309 Postby wx247 » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:43 am

My concern with the front and the trough, if you look at it, is how it is aligned. It seems to be a bit deeper with flow more SSW to NNE rather than a true SW to NE. This would have some implication on the how sharp the right turn would be in that it would lessen the angle of curvature.

As always this is just my $.04 and the Storm2K disclaimer applies. You should always pay attention to official sources for your information.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#3310 Postby SunnyThoughts » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:45 am

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#3311 Postby plasticup » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:45 am

OuterBanker wrote:The front is a bit stronger and slower. Not what we want. Also, if Earl speeds up just a little he will arrive closer to the coast. Again, it's a timing thing.
One other note, tourists don't seem to be the least concerned. It is a beautiful sunny day and there isn’t enough wind to fly my hurricane flags.
Perfect surfing waves, about four to six feet and clean. Hundreds of surfers are in the water.

I guess none of them have been through a hurricane before and have no idea how quickly things can change.

Day of reckoning ahead I'm afraid.

Eh, they have time. As long as they are keeping an eye on things and get out tomorrow, it should be fine. Right?
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#3312 Postby emeraldislencguy » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:46 am

you are right
the tourists here just dont see it as a problem
since it has been downgraded to a 3 they think it it even less of a big deal
they just dont understand how severe a cat 3 can be
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#3313 Postby TheBurn » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:47 am

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#3314 Postby plasticup » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:47 am

wx247 wrote:My concern with the front and the trough, if you look at it, is how it is aligned. It seems to be a bit deeper with flow more SSW to NNE rather than a true SW to NE. This would have some implication on the how sharp the right turn would be in that it would lessen the angle of curvature.

As always this is just my $.04 and the Storm2K disclaimer applies. You should always pay attention to official sources for your information.

All along the concern has been that a slightly slower trough wouldn't pick Earl up until too late. Are you saying that appears to be the case? If so, I expect the NHC will mention that in the 11 AM advisory.
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#3315 Postby wx247 » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:49 am

plasticup wrote:
wx247 wrote:My concern with the front and the trough, if you look at it, is how it is aligned. It seems to be a bit deeper with flow more SSW to NNE rather than a true SW to NE. This would have some implication on the how sharp the right turn would be in that it would lessen the angle of curvature.

As always this is just my $.04 and the Storm2K disclaimer applies. You should always pay attention to official sources for your information.

All along the concern has been that a slightly slower trough wouldn't pick Earl up until too late. Are you saying that appears to be the case? If so, I expect the NHC will mention that in the 11 AM advisory.


My concern is NOT that the trough won't pick it up, but rather the angle of the trough itself. Let me draw a crude graphic and upload it.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#3316 Postby plasticup » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:50 am

emeraldislencguy wrote:you are right
the tourists here just dont see it as a problem
since it has been downgraded to a 3 they think it it even less of a big deal
they just dont understand how severe a cat 3 can be

So often it's just a matter of perspective:
"Downgraded to Cat 3? Oh, that's not so bad"
"Upgraded to Cat 3? OH MY GOD WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!"

Either way, satellite presentation is improving. If the dry air is expelled I wouldn't be surprised to see a return to Category 4 strength.

edit: @wx247, Ahh, subtlety! I look forward to your explanation. There is so much knowledge here.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#3317 Postby emeraldislencguy » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:52 am

the satellits images are working now
thanks goodness
i am getting more concerned about what may happend down the road
going to start my taking in small furniture and get the storm shutters ready
it is a beautiful day here at emerald isle
very calm and very hot
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#3318 Postby sandyb » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:54 am

havent been out since i got to work but i know yesterday was so hot here in morehead city...headed to the beach tonight to board up some condos and put away pool furniture
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#3319 Postby OuterBanker » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:54 am

Btw, mandatory evacuation for tourists on Hatteras and Ocracoke islands.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#3320 Postby emeraldislencguy » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:54 am

looking forward to seeing your graphic
also the 11 am should be interesting
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