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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#4301 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:18 pm

Current conditions in the immediate landfall/peak threat area - as of 9 pm EDT:

Tropical storm gusts
Tropical storm sustained OR 58 mph gusts
Hurricane gusts OR 58 mph sustained
Hurricane sustained

Delaware
Dover - A few clouds, 77/65, SE 6

Maryland
Ocean City - A few clouds, 74/73, E 6
Salisbury - A few clouds, 74/70, E 3

North Carolina
Cape Hatteras - Light rain, 77/77, NE 14 G 33
Elizabeth City - Overcast, 79/75, NE 21
Greenville - Overcast, 79/68, N 10
Jacksonville - Light rain, 76/73, N 15
Manteo - Mostly cloudy, 81/81, NE 18 G 25
New Bern - Overcast, 79/73, N 18 G 26
Washington - Light rain, 79/70, NNE 12
Wilmington - Mostly cloudy, 80/70, N 14 G 22

Virginia
Norfolk - Overcast, 80/72, NE 15
Virginia Beach - Overcast, 78/73, NE 15 G 23

Buoys
Diamond Shoals - NE 35 G 45
Duck - NNE 26 G 31
Frying Pan Shoals - N 27 G 35
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#4302 Postby pimentel2 » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:18 pm

Meh...even if it hits, I'd say this is undergoing a quick death.
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#4303 Postby fasterdisaster » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:20 pm

pimentel2 wrote:Meh...even if it hits, I'd say this is undergoing a quick death.


Given recon, definitely not.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#4304 Postby TampaFl » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:29 pm

Hurricane Earl 8:00pm position - map courtesy http://www.BoatUS.com

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#4305 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:31 pm

Observations in the OBX do not confirm that graphic :uarrow:

Reported winds are weaker than shown

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/mhx/obs.php
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#4306 Postby fasterdisaster » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:33 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Observations in the OBX do not confirm that graphic :uarrow:

Reported winds are weaker than shown

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/mhx/obs.php

Isn't this because winds are lower on land?
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#4307 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:35 pm

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#4308 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:37 pm

fasterdisaster wrote:
HURAKAN wrote:Observations in the OBX do not confirm that graphic :uarrow:

Reported winds are weaker than shown

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/mhx/obs.php

Isn't this because winds are lower on land?


Not likely, just that the graphic looks like an idealized distribution of winds in a hurricane, pretty homogeneous. We know that doesn't happen.
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#4309 Postby wxman57 » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:39 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Observations in the OBX do not confirm that graphic :uarrow:

Reported winds are weaker than shown

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/mhx/obs.php


The main reason is two-fold. First of all, wind radii are drawn to the MAXIMUM extent of each wind field (39, 58 and 74 mph). So the outer 39 mph counter, for example, represents the MAXIMUM sustained wind that a location could experience if it's right on the 39 mph contour. Most likely, the wind would be significantly lower than 39 mph as the average wind speed. All the rest of the wind speeds within the contours represent the MAXIMUM likely wind at those points. Average wind speed may be much lower.

Second, the wind radii are for marine use only. That is, surface friction will reduce the winds over land by a good 15-20%. So when those contours pass over land there will be a double reduction to the average wind speed. There's the reduction from the max likely wind speed to the average wind speed and the frictional reduction over land.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#4310 Postby toto » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:43 pm

What happened to the two eye walls ?

Was that just an illusion ?
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#4311 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:44 pm

funster wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:unless there's a unforseen change in the track(which shouldn't happen due to the steering currents), the US is about to avoid a damaging a blow....I'm thinking we really lucked out on this one!


Hope so, but Earl still has to get a few more degrees east to avoid hitting Cape Cod. Earl's still pretty close to 95 west.


The forecast for this system I have made from several days ago was for the hurricane winds to stay offshore. Indeed seems to be verifying.
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#4312 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:50 pm

pressure up to 951 mb
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#4313 Postby capepoint » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:52 pm

Total non-event so far in Carteret County. A few quick showers, just enough to wet the roads but no ponding of water anywhere. Maximum gust that I have recorded was 27 at about 5 pm today. Currently winds from N at 11 gusting to 22. Southern end of Pamlico Sound has about a 2 foot rise in water level. Ocean waves up to the base of the dune line in Atlantic Beach, but no erosion noted so far. One ocean fishing pier reported damaged, only damage report in the county so far. No disruption of electricity anywhere.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#4314 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:22 pm

Current conditions in the immediate landfall/peak threat area - as of 10 pm EDT:

Tropical storm gusts
Tropical storm sustained OR 58 mph gusts
Hurricane gusts OR 58 mph sustained
Hurricane sustained

Delaware
Dover - A few clouds, 76/64, SE 5

Maryland
Ocean City - Mostly cloudy, 75/73, E 5
Salisbury - Mostly cloudy, 72/70, E 3

North Carolina
Cape Hatteras - Light rain, 72/72, NE 21 G 49
Elizabeth City - Overcast, 79/75, NE 17 G 25
Greenville - Light rain, 77/70, N 12 G 17
Jacksonville - Light rain, 75/73, N 17 G 24
Manteo - Mostly cloudy, 81/81, NE 20 G 30
New Bern - Light rain, 77/74, N 13 G 23
Washington - Overcast, 79/70, N 10 G 16
Wilmington - Mostly cloudy, 79/69, NW 15 G 22

Virginia
Norfolk - Overcast, 79/73, NE 13
Virginia Beach - Overcast, 79/74, NE 17 G 24

Buoys
Diamond Shoals - NE 45 G 56
Duck - NNE 27 G 32
Frying Pan Shoals - NNW 25 G 31
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#4315 Postby lonelymike » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:28 pm

gatorcane wrote:
funster wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:unless there's a unforseen change in the track(which shouldn't happen due to the steering currents), the US is about to avoid a damaging a blow....I'm thinking we really lucked out on this one!


Hope so, but Earl still has to get a few more degrees east to avoid hitting Cape Cod. Earl's still pretty close to 95 west.


The forecast for this system I have made from several days ago was for the hurricane winds to stay offshore. Indeed seems to be verifying.


Your humility is showing :wink:
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#4316 Postby lonelymike » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:31 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:unless there's a unforseen change in the track(which shouldn't happen due to the steering currents), the US is about to avoid a damaging a blow....I'm thinking we really lucked out on this one!


Steven Hawking probably wouldn't agree but I'm few prayers and a silent guiding hand mighta had something to do with it....just sayin 8-)
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#4317 Postby dekeoy » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:36 pm

Non-event here. Time to get some rest and regroup for the next expected issue, should it arise in 7-10 days.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#4318 Postby KatDaddy » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:41 pm

Be very thankful the worst will pass offshore.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#4319 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:44 pm

Also good news that it has weakened a lot,not a powerful cat 4 anymore.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#4320 Postby Sanibel » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:51 pm

The big eye is still mostly due N on radar.
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