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Re: ATL : 92L - Models

#61 Postby Wx_Warrior » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:48 pm

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Re: ATL : 92L - Models

#62 Postby South Texas Storms » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:50 pm

wow the 12z euro is even further south. it barely makes it into the boc
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Re: ATL : 92L - Models

#63 Postby Wx_Warrior » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:54 pm

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Re: ATL : 92L - Models

#64 Postby hurricaneCW » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:55 pm

I don't see a whole lot with this one from the Euro but wow does it explode Igor. What a massive and powerful system, thank god that's recurving because it would be a disaster.
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Re: ATL : 92L - Models

#65 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:58 pm

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WHXX01 KWBC 091852
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1852 UTC THU SEP 9 2010
 
DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.
 
ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR
 
DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL922010) 20100909 1800 UTC
 
        ...00 HRS...   ...12 HRS...   ...24 HRS. ..   ...36 HRS...
        100909  1800   100910  0600   100910  1800   100911  0600
 
         LAT    LON     LAT    LON     LAT    LON     LAT    LON
BAMS    12.3N  61.0W   12.4N  61.6W   12.7N  62.5W   13.0N  63.6W
BAMD    12.3N  61.0W   12.2N  62.2W   12.3N  64.0W   12.4N  65.9W
BAMM    12.3N  61.0W   12.2N  61.7W   12.4N  62.9W   12.6N  64.3W
LBAR    12.3N  61.0W   12.5N  61.9W   13.1N  63.3W   13.8N  65.1W
SHIP        20KTS          27KTS          37KTS          49KTS
DSHP        20KTS          27KTS          37KTS          49KTS
 
        ...48 HRS...   ...72 HRS...   ...96 HRS. ..   ..120 HRS...
        100911  1800   100912  1800   100913  1800   100914  1800
 
         LAT    LON     LAT    LON     LAT    LON     LAT    LON
BAMS    13.4N  64.9W   14.3N  68.3W   15.1N  71.8W   16.6N  75.3W
BAMD    12.4N  68.1W   12.4N  73.4W   11.9N  79.2W   10.9N  85.0W
BAMM    12.8N  66.1W   13.2N  70.0W   13.7N  73.8W   14.7N  77.3W
LBAR    14.7N  67.3W   16.3N  72.4W   17.7N  77.6W   19.0N  81.9W
SHIP        62KTS          78KTS          87KTS          96KTS
DSHP        62KTS          78KTS          87KTS          96KTS
 
         ...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR =  12.3N LONCUR =  61.0W DIRCUR = 280DEG SPDCUR =   6KT
LATM12 =  12.1N LONM12 =  59.8W DIRM12 = 281DEG SPDM12 =   5KT
LATM24 =  11.9N LONM24 =  58.7W
WNDCUR =   20KT RMAXWD =   40NM WNDM12 =   20KT
CENPRS = 1009MB OUTPRS = 1011MB OUTRAD =   90NM SDEPTH =   S
RD34NE =    0NM RD34SE =    0NM RD34SW =    0NM RD34NW =   0NM
 

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Re: ATL : 92L - Models

#66 Postby HouTXmetro » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:59 pm

Look at that ridging... Well the two most reliable models, euro and gfs says Mexico. Mexico it is.....imo
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Re: ATL : 92L - Models

#67 Postby Wx_Warrior » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:01 pm

Basically EURO lost it on 12z
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Re: ATL : 92L - Models

#68 Postby Wx_Warrior » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:06 pm

Regardless the strength...check ridging:

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Re: ATL : 92L - Models

#69 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:16 pm

We will have to see how strong it gets in the short term. The Canadian has been very consistent in bringing this further north.

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#70 Postby Vortex » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:26 pm

Nam/Cmc/Nogaps have been holding on to the short-term N run at PR & Vicinity since inception...we should be able to get a better handle as we progress through the day and into the overnight as to how much validity the northern camp will have...
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Re: ATL : 92L - Models

#71 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:29 pm

Most GFS Ensembles are further north than the operational and one lone Charley hook :D

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Re: ATL : 92L - Models

#72 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:41 pm

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Re: ATL : 92L - Models

#73 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:47 pm

Ya'll know the drill. Get back on topic asap!
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Re: ATL : 92L - Models

#74 Postby nashrobertsx » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:13 pm

Wx_Warrior wrote:Regardless the strength...check ridging:

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I have been so out of touch. Can someone tell me what those 2 canes in this pic are? 918mb? wow, is that IGOR and the one behind it is 92L? Thanks!
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Re: ATL : 92L - Models

#75 Postby South Texas Storms » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:16 pm

igor is the strongest one and the one behind it has yet to come off of africa. 92l is already inland in mexico by then according to this model.
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Re: ATL : 92L - Models

#76 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:17 pm

18z Nam focuses the center between Barbados and Martinique in 36 hours

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#77 Postby Vortex » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:28 pm

looks reasonable to me and the synoptics at the 200 and 500mb level would support a movement to the nnw/nw...
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#78 Postby Vortex » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:37 pm

Center appears to be just west of barbados and if you look at the vis loop its clearly evident its moving off to the NW.




http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/flash-vis.html
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Re: ATL : 92L - Models

#79 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:49 pm

12z Euro Ensembles seem to suggest a stall in the BOC with a possible drift NNE

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#80 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:53 pm

Saw that. We were just discussing the N/NE drift at the end. Heights do start lowering out west during that time frame.
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