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ATL: COLIN - Recon Discussion

#1 Postby artist » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:41 am

Here we can discuss RECON findings.

Seems they have found ssw winds as well as I believe it was 40 kt winds as well.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Colin - RECON Discussion

#2 Postby artist » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:44 am

ok, here is what I was mentioning above on the kts found -

163330 1925N 06039W 9771 00321 0136 +227 +188 121034 034 036 000 00
163400 1927N 06039W 9770 00322 0137 +221 +186 125036 037 039 001 00
163430 1928N 06038W 9770 00322 0139 +211 +184 125036 037 044 007 00
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#3 Postby x-y-no » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:51 am

It's a sharper wave than I expected them to find.

It'll be interesting to see what wind direction they find on the SW side.
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#4 Postby artist » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:53 am

ok, this really surprsies me, look at these winds -

URNT15 KNHC 041645
AF302 0104A INVEST HDOB 13 20100804
163500 1930N 06038W 9770 00322 0140 +200 +179 131037 038 046 009 00
163530 1931N 06037W 9771 00321 0141 +195 +172 136038 039 052 014 00
163600 1933N 06037W 9771 00320 0140 +199 +166 139040 041 041 007 00
163630 1935N 06037W 9768 00324 0141 +200 +160 136041 042 041 006 00
163700 1936N 06036W 9770 00322 0141 +200 +157 136041 042 041 004 00
163730 1938N 06036W 9773 00320 0142 +198 +155 135043 044 045 011 00
163800 1940N 06035W 9771 00322 0141 +208 +154 136045 047 046 005 00
163830 1941N 06035W 9770 00326 0142 +223 +153 137046 047 046 001 03
163900 1943N 06034W 9766 00330 0143 +220 +153 138045 046 041 005 00
163930 1945N 06034W 9769 00328 0145 +211 +154 138040 044 039 009 00
164000 1946N 06034W 9775 00322 0145 +201 +155 140040 043 042 010 00
164030 1948N 06033W 9769 00328 0147 +197 +155 136041 045 044 010 00
164100 1950N 06033W 9770 00327 0146 +210 +155 137042 045 042 005 00
164130 1951N 06032W 9782 00316 0148 +197 +155 136040 042 047 019 03
164200 1953N 06032W 9764 00334 0148 +205 +155 138046 046 041 006 00
164230 1955N 06031W 9774 00326 0149 +203 +154 135040 041 043 009 00
164300 1956N 06031W 9763 00336 0149 +211 +154 128039 041 040 009 00
164330 1958N 06031W 9776 00324 0146 +221 +155 124040 041 037 006 03
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#5 Postby GeneratorPower » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:54 am

Sorry, but does anyone have the key to decode these HDOBs? I have forgotten how.
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#6 Postby x-y-no » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:58 am

GeneratorPower wrote:Sorry, but does anyone have the key to decode these HDOBs? I have forgotten how.


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#7 Postby artist » Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:00 pm

the last column is whether they feel there is an error with the obs or not - 00 means none
the 4 columns before that - the one next to the error column is the winds seen from the sfmr at the surface- on board radar I believe, the 3 before that the last 2 numbers are the knots found at flight level.


ooops, that should be 2 columns away from the error column is the sfmr (on board radar) - not the one next to it, then the 2 to the left of it are actually flight level readings.
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#8 Postby x-y-no » Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:00 pm

That's a nice big patch of TS winds ... Way off east of the axis of course ...

Heavily sheared but I'm somewhat surprised how strong it still is.
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#9 Postby artist » Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:05 pm

hope that helps.
and here is the NHC's recon page, scroll down for pdf's that will explain -
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/reconlist.shtml
you can also go to http://www.tropicalatlantic.com/recon/ which has a decoder set up for you -
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#10 Postby artist » Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:05 pm

x-y-no wrote:That's a nice big patch of TS winds ... Way off east of the axis of course ...

Heavily sheared but I'm somewhat surprised how strong it still is.


you beat me to it! :cheesy:
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#11 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:07 pm

Based on that data, it is probably a 45 kt wave/low.

For land about to get hit, a 45 kt tropical storm and a 45 kt low would do the same impacts.
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#12 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:47 pm

Will be very interesting to see what recon gets when they fly next time...
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#13 Postby artist » Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:50 pm

KWT wrote:Will be very interesting to see what recon gets when they fly next time...

seems there is a flight on the way. Left from Kessler I believe.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Colin - RECON Discussion

#14 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:54 pm

artist, the first mission today departed from St Croix?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Colin - RECON Discussion

#15 Postby artist » Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:56 pm

cycloneye wrote:artist, the first mission today departed from St Croix?

yeah, that's why I am confused, unless they had trouble with the plane. They didn't finish sending any obs today past the 17th obs. so maybe a new plane on the way?
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#16 Postby thetruesms » Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:57 pm

I was going to say, leaving now seems a bit early for a 6Z fix from St. Croix :lol:
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#17 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:58 pm

So is that the next mission, 06z from St.Croix. They normally don't do it for invests (which effectivly it is) but obviously since it maybe developing they may well go into the system.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Colin - RECON Discussion

#18 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:59 pm

What you are posting at the recon thread may be or a training mission or as you said sending another plane to ST Croix. By the way,it not says this header=0104A INVEST instead is WXWXA
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Colin - RECON Discussion

#19 Postby clfenwi » Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:10 pm

Given that the plane is meandering around 98° W, it appears that AF304 is a training mission. Seems likely to me that the next mission is the one scheduled to launch at 1630Z, tomorrow.
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#20 Postby artist » Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:12 pm

according to this is there not a scheduled 2230 today which is what time this one left?

ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. TROPICAL STORM COLIN
FLIGHT ONE -- TEAL 71
A. 05/0000, 0600Z
B. AFXXX 0204A COLIN
C. 04/2230Z
D. 18.3N 60.4W
E. 04/2230Z TO 05/0600Z
F. SFC TO 15,000 FT
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