ATL: MATTHEW - Ex-Tropical Storm - Discussion

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#1241 Postby Shuriken » Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:19 am

Is anybody accumulating a time-lapse of the Alvarado radar?
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#1242 Postby Shuriken » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:01 am

(time-sensitive) http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/flash-ir2.html

There is still evidently a vigorous and distinct (i.e., apart from the monsoon's) circulation associated with Matthew, with banding in the BoC and streamers flowing onshore to the south off the Pacific.

IMO, it could sit over the Isthmus of Tehuantepec with warm water on both sides for days and persist in this state.

In the latest imagery, there appears to be a hint that the storm is beginning to lift ever so slightly north, heralding (I think) an ENE move back across the Yucatan.
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#1243 Postby xironman » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:13 am

Not that anything will come of it, but vorticity is increasing in the BOC

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I hadn't noticed, but I see now Veracruz has a buoy http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=VERV4. West wind, but probably a local effect.
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#1244 Postby Nimbus » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:04 am

Convection in both the BOC and western caribbean. Heavy T storms moving off Cozumel this morning. We are still just past the peak of the season so its blob watching time.
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#1245 Postby KWT » Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:32 pm

If it weren't for the developing system further east it'd probably have half a chance but as Wxman57 noted the Monsoonal gyre is gonna eventually take the remains back into the Caribbean where models are at least hinting at something.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Ex-Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1246 Postby Macrocane » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:17 pm

5 deaths were reproted in Honduras and one in El Salvador because of Matthew. The links are in Spanish, the first one is a link to a nNicaraguan newspaper and teh 2nd one is a link to the official report of damages in El Salvador.

http://www.laprensa.com.ni/2010/09/27/internacionales/38999

http://proteccioncivil.gob.sv/zonadescargas/Invierno2010/Tormenta_Matthew/Informe%203%20-%2026Sep2010.pdf
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Ex-Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1247 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:30 pm

Macrocane wrote:5 deaths were reproted in Honduras and one in El Salvador because of Matthew. The links are in Spanish, the first one is a link to a nNicaraguan newspaper and teh 2nd one is a link to the official report of damages in El Salvador.

http://www.laprensa.com.ni/2010/09/27/internacionales/38999

http://proteccioncivil.gob.sv/zonadescargas/Invierno2010/Tormenta_Matthew/Informe%203%20-%2026Sep2010.pdf


Translation to english. You can see the english version by putting mouse over text.

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.a ... es%2F38999
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#1248 Postby Macrocane » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:50 pm

Thanks cycloneye! I will bookmark that site.
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#1249 Postby TheEuropean » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:12 am

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#1250 Postby Sanibel » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:33 am

Matthew remnants causing flooding in Chiapas state Mexico.
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#1251 Postby TheEuropean » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:46 am

May be, hundreds of people dead in the large landslide:

http://www.wdsu.com/news/25191603/detail.html

I remember someone posted last week that Matthew could be the deadliest storm of the season...
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#1252 Postby Rainband » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:49 am

Sad news. It's odd how "weak" storms cause the most loss of life and property.
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#1253 Postby artist » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:57 am

yeah, I just heard there was a mud slide that covered over 300 homes.
There have been more than a dozen deaths before this according to TWC.

Since this is still from Matthew, Macrocane, let's go on ahead and put the reports there as the thread is still up.

Our thoughts and prayers are with all.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Ex-Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1254 Postby Macrocane » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:58 am

:eek: Could this be enough to retire the name Matthew? I know that now it's not a tropical cyclone anymore but the rains are directly related to its remnants so I if it was my decision I would retire it. Hopefully there are many survivors :(
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#1255 Postby artist » Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:18 am

Macrocane wrote::eek: Could this be enough to retire the name Matthew? I know that now it's not a tropical cyclone anymore but the rains are directly related to its remnants so I if it was my decision I would retire it. Hopefully there are many survivors :(


I hope not Macrocane. As you, I hope there are more survivors than not.
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#1256 Postby chrisjslucia » Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:33 am

As others have commented, it isn't always the major storms that cause the most destruction. Heavy rains from Mathew have added to what has already been a heavy rainy season for many in the region. Possibly hundreds killed now in Mexico, following loss of life in Guatemala. Tremendous damage to crops, hundreds of homes destroyed, roads and bridges washed away, the impact of Mathew is a huge economic and social burden for CA. For those amateurs of us who come to S2K for news, information and advice we are often as concerned with Tropical Depressions that wreak havoc through rain as we are with more developed TS and Hurricanes. They are all storms to us!! Cuba is about to receive heavy rains via TD16, let us hope they and Florida do not suffer the same level of damage and in particular, loss of life.

I agree with other posters, maybe it is time to retire this name.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Ex-Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1257 Postby apocalypt-flyer » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:01 pm

Some awful awful news coming in from Mexico. Let's hope things aren't quite as bad as suggested or reported.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Ex-Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1258 Postby caneseddy » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:05 pm

Macrocane wrote::eek: Could this be enough to retire the name Matthew? I know that now it's not a tropical cyclone anymore but the rains are directly related to its remnants so I if it was my decision I would retire it. Hopefully there are many survivors :(


I'm not sure that Matthew will be retired; I know Allison was the only TS to ever have been retired so it is rare for tropical storms to be retired
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Ex-Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1259 Postby Iune » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:22 pm

caneseddy wrote:
Macrocane wrote::eek: Could this be enough to retire the name Matthew? I know that now it's not a tropical cyclone anymore but the rains are directly related to its remnants so I if it was my decision I would retire it. Hopefully there are many survivors :(


I'm not sure that Matthew will be retired; I know Allison was the only TS to ever have been retired so it is rare for tropical storms to be retired

That might be true, but you can't really overlook 216 deaths (with 1000 more feared dead as well).
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#1260 Postby Cyclone1 » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:27 pm

I see no reason for Matthew to remain on the naming list at this point.
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