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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#1641 Postby Bocadude85 » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:47 pm

Seems like this could be a close call for the SE US next week. Still think David in 1979 is a good analog for a potential track.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#1642 Postby Evil Jeremy » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:49 pm

sunnyday wrote:So. Fla. newspaper says today that the storm will take a strong east turn into the Bahamas, thus missing Florida. That's not very responsible to be so certain at this point, is it? 8-)


No, but props to them for discussing the system this far out. At least people may know that a system could be coming close to us.
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#1643 Postby vacanechaser » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:49 pm

thanx kwt..




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#1644 Postby KWT » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:49 pm

Explodes into a strong system on the ECM at 192hrs, recurving ENE out to sea, very close to Bermuda!

models have been shifting westwards overall today, at least for the first 96hrs, thats something that will need to be watched.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#1645 Postby Nimbus » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:50 pm

I've been trying to get a center fix. Looks like about 13.7 N at 53 W. Last center fix I had was 12.6 N at 48 W. A little more than a degree of latitude north for 5 every degrees west. Some of that could have been the system lifting out of the ITC.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#1646 Postby Recurve » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:51 pm

The HWRF that cycloneye posted (http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/hwrftc2.cgi?time=2011073112-invest91l&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation) has it at 25N 74W heading northward having reached 75-85 knots (bouncing around some), but not sure there's enough weakness north of it to keep it headed that way, although the ridge in the Atlantic isn't blocking it either. Anybody else see anything?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#1647 Postby KWT » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:53 pm

scotto wrote:It looks like the one to the west is slowing down and the easterly one is going to run in to it.


Thats a possible solution, the surface low of the western one would likely become dominant and the two will merge together.

Thats at least what the ECm/Nogaps have both been showing on thier 12z.
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#1648 Postby x-y-no » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:53 pm

Well this throws a spanner in the works:

31/1745 UTC 13.1N 56.8W T1.5/1.5 91L -- Atlantic


Source: http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/tdpositions.html

OB 16 of recon (last set I've seen) had NW winds in what should have been the NW quad of the old (trailing) circulation. But that makes sense if the leading blob has taken over.

If that's the case - throw all the models out.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#1649 Postby EyELeSs1 » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:54 pm

look where they placed the center
31/1745 UTC 13.1N 56.8W T1.5/1.5 91L
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#1650 Postby sunnyday » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:54 pm

They've been discussing it for a couple of days now. Readers are writing in, making fun of it all and saying to head to the store and buy up all the bread! They say they don't care if it doesn't come where they live! 8-)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#1651 Postby KWT » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:54 pm

Nimbus wrote:I've been trying to get a center fix. Looks like about 13.7 N at 53 W. Last center fix I had was 12.6 N at 48 W. A little more than a degree of latitude north for 5 every degrees west. Some of that could have been the system lifting out of the ITC.


Good luck trying to get a center fix, its pretty messy out there and there are two regions that seems to be competing and disruping each other at the moment.

Thats why I'd put rather small amount of trust in the models for now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#1652 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:55 pm

Recurve wrote:The HWRF that cycloneye posted (http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/hwrftc2.cgi?time=2011073112-invest91l&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation) has it at 25N 74W heading northward having reached 75-85 knots (bouncing around some), but not sure there's enough weakness north of it to keep it headed that way, although the ridge in the Atlantic isn't blocking it either. Anybody else see anything?


yeah posted that earlier..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#1653 Postby sunnyday » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:56 pm

XYNO, why would they throw all the models out? How would the direction change then?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#1654 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:56 pm

EyELeSs1 wrote:look where they placed the center
31/1745 UTC 13.1N 56.8W T1.5/1.5 91L


if that true, throw all the model runs in the trash bin because they would be wrong
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#1655 Postby Recurve » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:57 pm

beoumont wrote:
Dean4Storms wrote:The western area should fade away as the the low near 14N 52W continues to organize and deepen. That is where Recon. will be investigating and likely to find our TC!


Another double-yolk elongated disturbance to deal with. Hopefully the yoke is not on us.



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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#1656 Postby tailgater » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:57 pm

EyELeSs1 wrote:
Lowpressure wrote:Recon windfield data will be very interesting.


100% agree

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Can you post the web site for this PIC. thanks in advance.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#1657 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:59 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:
EyELeSs1 wrote:look where they placed the center
31/1745 UTC 13.1N 56.8W T1.5/1.5 91L


if that true, throw all the model runs in the trash bin because they would be wrong


well that is just the mean center of the two areas... just splitting the difference.
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#1658 Postby Dave » Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:01 pm

31/1745 UTC 13.1N 56.8W T1.5/1.5 91L -- Atlantic

Source: http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/tdpositions.html

Still no updates from AF304 on HDOBS..

Someone else take over please, I have to leave soon. Good luck & thanks!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#1659 Postby pgoss11 » Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:01 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:
EyELeSs1 wrote:look where they placed the center
31/1745 UTC 13.1N 56.8W T1.5/1.5 91L


if that true, throw all the model runs in the trash bin because they would be wrong


well that is just the mean center of the two areas... just splitting the difference.

So there's not two entities? This is just one big mess?? Wow.. will be awhile before this will consolidate into some sort of organization.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#1660 Postby pgoss11 » Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:02 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:
EyELeSs1 wrote:look where they placed the center
31/1745 UTC 13.1N 56.8W T1.5/1.5 91L


if that true, throw all the model runs in the trash bin because they would be wrong


well that is just the mean center of the two areas... just splitting the difference.

So there's not two entities? This is just one big mess?? Wow.. will be awhile before this will consolidate into some sort of organization.
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