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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#1721 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:54 pm

add gfdl to the list..

not as much of a bend but still all models that i can think of right bend to the left..

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#1722 Postby northjaxpro » Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:56 pm

Yeah, Aric, this trend to the west is pretty solid now no doubt about it. This is really going to be an interesting holiday weekend watching Katia.
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#1723 Postby Stephanie » Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:58 pm

:double: *GROAN* Not again, Please!
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#1724 Postby KWT » Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:59 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
oh and dont forget the ukmet either.. it has the strongest ridging


Standard for the UKMO, pretty sure that is one of the only models out there that has a left bias, most certainly have a right bias.

Bend back west has some really good agreement now, think its quite likely to happen to some extent, but its gotta stick way west for a long time to really be a big threat and much is going to depend solely on TD13.

In this pattern I'm watching for a DUE west bend, WNW will probably still be enough to gain enough latitude to recurve in what still looks like a weakly troughy pattern.
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#1725 Postby Ptarmigan » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:00 pm

I think Katia could be a fish storm. Of course anything can change.
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#1726 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:06 pm

KWT wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
oh and dont forget the ukmet either.. it has the strongest ridging


Standard for the UKMO, pretty sure that is one of the only models out there that has a left bias, most certainly have a right bias.

Bend back west has some really good agreement now, think its quite likely to happen to some extent, but its gotta stick way west for a long time to really be a big threat and much is going to depend solely on TD13.

In this pattern I'm watching for a DUE west bend, WNW will probably still be enough to gain enough latitude to recurve in what still looks like a weakly troughy pattern.


well it mostly depends on that low off of NC. the ridge builds in after it lifts out. if it lifts out slower the trough will get here and she will already be farther north. if it lifts out in the next 36 to 48 hours like the models are hinting at then the ridging will build in and turn her west. it all really depends on that low. because without the west turn lee wont have any influence at all..
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#1727 Postby meriland23 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:14 pm

HurricaneWarning92 wrote:hmm does anyone think the NHC will make drastic changes in the 11 pm update regarding the track or just noticeable changes?

Noticable but not drastic, still a lot of variety when it comes to the models, nhc tend to favor a middle.
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1728 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:26 pm

00z Best Track

Remains as a Tropical Storm.

AL, 12, 2011090200, , BEST, 0, 165N, 500W, 60, 990, TS

ftp://ftp.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/ ... 011.invest
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1729 Postby painkillerr » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:29 pm

[quote="cycloneye"]00z Best Track

Remains as a Tropical Storm.


Hi Luis, how concerned should we be Katia at this point?
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#1730 Postby meriland23 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:34 pm

bexar wrote:Katia looks pathetic right now on the latest visible... so much for the big fish everyone was anticipating for. :roll:

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It is too soon to make a assumption like that. It was supposed to degrade some and then come back with vengence. And the fish scenario seems to be turning into a more unlikely event. This weakening is what is preventing the fish scenario and increasing the US risk. The slower it is to strengthen, the further west.
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1731 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:36 pm

painkillerr wrote:
cycloneye wrote:00z Best Track

Remains as a Tropical Storm.


Hi Luis, how concerned should we be Katia at this point?



We should keep watching Katia just in case it surprises us with a west track continuing and makes an approach to the islands,but is almost certain that it will track to the north of the Leewards,VI and PR.
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#1732 Postby Jevo » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:40 pm

bexar wrote:Katia looks pathetic right now on the latest visible... so much for the big fish everyone was anticipating for. :roll:

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Yeah pathetic......... :roll: :lol:

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#1733 Postby Tireman4 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:46 pm

Are my eyes deceiving me or does the graphic showing Katia a hurricane?
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#1734 Postby Steve H. » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:52 pm

Anyone have a link to the 18Z NOGAPS?
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#1735 Postby WeatherGuesser » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:53 pm

Tireman4 wrote:Are my eyes deceiving me or does the graphic showing Katia a hurricane?


At the top of this page?

Admin has explained many times that changes to the graphic are delayed quite often. It will change eventually.
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#1736 Postby Zarniwoop » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:53 pm

NoGaps has it running right into FL.

This site has a lot of interesting stuff.

(I am just relinking - someone did it earlier)

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/wxmap_cgi/cg ... ic&set=All
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#1737 Postby Tireman4 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:54 pm

WeatherGuesser wrote:
Tireman4 wrote:Are my eyes deceiving me or does the graphic showing Katia a hurricane?


At the top of this page?

Admin has explained many times that changes to the graphic are delayed quite often. It will change eventually.



As I have just asked. Thanks for explaining. You did not need to put in "many times". I was just asking. Information to be passed on. Not to be snarky
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#1738 Postby Steve H. » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:56 pm

Thanks Zarn!
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#1739 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:05 pm

What are those cloud tops, like -90C? She's really trying, despite the shear!
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#1740 Postby HurricaneWarning92 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:13 pm

Are people being sarcastic or what? I dont think it looks pathetic at all. Ive seen worse. Yeah, its struggling and most of the convection is to the right of the LLC but its not that bad...
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