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#1781 Postby RL3AO » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:40 am

bella_may wrote:Will be interesting today to see if the models shift west again or if they stay the same


If they shift they're moving east.
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#1782 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:40 am

well recon still finding lots of 50kt FL winds.. but sfmr seems a little low. still probably 50mph.. but I have not seen any surface reports from the NE islands.. barbuda which is in the middle of the strong winds according recon has not updated since 6am .. :(
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1783 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:40 am

12z Best Track

So is more north than this with what Aric and RL3AO posted?

AL, 09, 2011082112, , BEST, 0, 168N, 624W, 45, 1005, TS

ftp://ftp.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/ ... 011.invest
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#1784 Postby RL3AO » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:41 am

I'll admit I'm usually one to roll my eyes at the wobble watchers, but this could be a very important jump north. Radar showed the center just jumped 45 miles NNW.
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Recon

#1785 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:42 am

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Re: ATL: IRENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1786 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:44 am

Second pass comming shortly.
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1787 Postby RL3AO » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:45 am

cycloneye wrote:12z Best Track

So is more north than this with what Aric and RL3AO posted?

AL, 09, 2011082112, , BEST, 0, 168N, 624W, 45, 1005, TS

ftp://ftp.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/ ... 011.invest


Radar shows it at about 17.3. Lets see what recon says.
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#1788 Postby bella_may » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:45 am

RL3AO wrote:
bella_may wrote:Will be interesting today to see if the models shift west again or if they stay the same


If they shift they're moving east.

No I don't think so.the center has already initialized north which is what caused the east shift in the models.once this starts to go w or wnw again the models might start to shift west again
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#1789 Postby Lowpressure » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:45 am

RL3AO wrote:I'll admit I'm usually one to roll my eyes at the wobble watchers, but this could be a very important jump north. Radar showed the center just jumped 45 miles NNW.

I was thinking the same thing. The northward shift has huge implications, not only track but intensity. Missing the mountain chain is obvioulsy a big difference. This has the potential to be big news soon. See how all this settles out and recon data is ingested.
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#1790 Postby RL3AO » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:46 am

015
URNT15 KNHC 211344
AF300 0209A IRENE HDOB 21 20110821
133430 1752N 06149W 8428 01569 //// +138 //// 124046 053 042 012 05
133500 1751N 06150W 8440 01559 //// +136 //// 121036 044 045 018 01
133530 1749N 06151W 8418 01584 //// +134 //// 112043 044 043 015 05
133600 1748N 06153W 8424 01574 //// +136 //// 112047 050 039 016 01
133630 1747N 06154W 8426 01570 //// +135 //// 118041 042 039 009 01
133700 1746N 06155W 8430 01568 //// +133 //// 115043 044 040 012 01
133730 1744N 06156W 8430 01567 //// +139 //// 124042 046 041 012 01
133800 1743N 06158W 8431 01564 //// +138 //// 122042 043 039 012 01
133830 1742N 06159W 8436 01561 //// +152 //// 122046 047 036 008 01
133900 1741N 06200W 8427 01570 //// +156 //// 121047 047 037 005 01
133930 1740N 06201W 8430 01565 //// +149 //// 121048 048 036 008 01
134000 1739N 06203W 8429 01564 //// +141 //// 120047 048 039 008 01
134030 1737N 06204W 8425 01567 //// +141 //// 121046 049 040 009 01
134100 1736N 06205W 8438 01554 //// +137 //// 120047 048 038 011 01
134130 1735N 06207W 8430 01563 //// +132 //// 118045 046 041 010 05
134200 1734N 06208W 8429 01562 //// +126 //// 117043 044 041 013 01
134230 1732N 06209W 8434 01556 //// +133 //// 129045 047 041 009 01
134300 1731N 06210W 8419 01569 //// +149 //// 132042 044 039 009 01
134330 1730N 06212W 8433 01552 //// +147 //// 134044 044 040 006 01
134400 1729N 06213W 8434 01550 //// +157 //// 139045 045 040 004 01
$$
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1791 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:47 am

RL3AO wrote:
cycloneye wrote:12z Best Track

So is more north than this with what Aric and RL3AO posted?

AL, 09, 2011082112, , BEST, 0, 168N, 624W, 45, 1005, TS

ftp://ftp.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/ ... 011.invest


Radar shows it at about 17.3. Lets see what recon says.


yeah up past 17N for sure.
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1792 Postby 3090 » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:47 am

In my opinion, Irene is going to pass decently south of PR, looking at the current flow pattern around her. I think the EGOM/west coast of Florida will be in play, more then right up the middle of the State. JMO.

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#1793 Postby HurricaneWarning92 » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:48 am

hmm isnt today the day that conditions should improve thus allowing her to intensify?
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Recon

#1794 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:49 am

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#1795 Postby Kory » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:50 am

I think Irene will scrape the south coast of Puerto Rico. It was definitely the center relocation that pushed it more north.


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Re: ATL: IRENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1796 Postby Emmett_Brown » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:50 am

Regarding the northward jumps, it is fairly common for storms that are just closing off their circulations to jump north into the convection, which causes W moving systems to stair-step to the NW as they wrap and strengthen. If memory serves, after the consolidation of the core, we might see more pronounced W movement, and maybe even a W/SW wobble or 2. Again, this is just from memory of past systems.
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1797 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:51 am

It appears to be right about on top of St kits.

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Re: ATL: IRENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1798 Postby bella_may » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:52 am

Emmett_Brown wrote:Regarding the northward jumps, it is fairly common for storms that are just closing off their circulations to jump north into the convection, which causes W moving systems to stair-step to the NW as they wrap and strengthen. If memory serves, after the consolidation of the core, we might see more pronounced W movement, and maybe even a W/SW wobble or 2. Again, this is just from memory of past systems.

Someone said the same thing earlier. I think it was tbcanefreak who said it
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#1799 Postby HurricaneWarning92 » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:53 am

And i think shes gonna pass over PR and just clip the northern side of DR.

Nvm.. it may even scrape the northern side of PR.
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1800 Postby RL3AO » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:54 am

Aric Dunn wrote:It appears to be right about on top of St kits.


Not good for PR and probably not good for the US (and Bahamas).
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