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#3781 Postby Gustywind » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:39 pm

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#3782 Postby stormreader » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:39 pm

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I am surprised the NHC cone is that far west. I do think we will see it shift right over the next couple of advisories as the models seem to be shifting back right. Plus the quicker it organizes the more it will feel the weakness.

I still do not see this as a Florida storm yet. Still calling for it to pass far enough to the east and see it as more of an issue for the Bahamas.


I don't know Gator---I think the NHC initial track here is pretty close. And regardless of those most recent shifts east, lets wait a day or so to get a better handle on what is now Emily IMO. I still think the track will have to be nudged west a tad in the next day or so. I don't really read models too well though. Would like to see what the Euro says about the expanding ridge. Am I correct in seeing that it gives a good impetus to the ridge having it over or near S Fl many days from now?? Could be wrong though.
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#3783 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:41 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:actually seems to me the ridging just build back in over the last 24 hours.. maybe that explains the rapid west motion all of a sudden.. maybe models are off on the initial strength of the ridging


http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/a ... 2java.html


According to the NHC the subtropical ridge north of it is weakening.
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#3784 Postby jlauderdal » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:41 pm

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Aric Dunn wrote:Did the new data get into the 00z bam's ?



Ummm not sure what I am seeing here but this says they canceled the g-IV flight?

2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY:
A. CONTINUE 6-HRLY FIXES IF SYSTEM REMAINS A THREAT.
B. A G-IV MISSION FOR 04/0000Z

3. REMARK: G-IV MISSION FOR 02/0000Z CANCELED AT 01/1400Z.


the situation is so confusing they realize that not even the g4 can help, save the cash for down the road
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#3785 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:42 pm

actually seems to me the ridging just build back in over the last 24 hours.. maybe that explains the rapid west motion all of a sudden.. maybe models are off on the initial strength of the ridging


http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/a ... 2java.html
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3786 Postby wxman57 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:42 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:Well the criteria for a warning is 24 hours or less from landfall, and this is nearly 2 days from landfall. Therefore at this point, a watch is more appropriate.


That is incorrect. Warnings are now issued 36 hrs from impact, watches 48 hrs from impact.
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#3787 Postby CronkPSU » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:42 pm

shaggy wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Did the new data get into the 00z bam's ?



Ummm not sure what I am seeing here but this says they canceled the g-IV flight?

2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY:
A. CONTINUE 6-HRLY FIXES IF SYSTEM REMAINS A THREAT.
B. A G-IV MISSION FOR 04/0000Z

3. REMARK: G-IV MISSION FOR 02/0000Z CANCELED AT 01/1400Z.



pffft....nothing to see here, no possible hurricane looking at US landfall...maybe that flight was on the deficit bill?
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#3788 Postby Hylian Auree » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:43 pm

wxman57, what's your take on its track during the next 24 hours?
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#3789 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:43 pm

gatorcane wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:actually seems to me the ridging just build back in over the last 24 hours.. maybe that explains the rapid west motion all of a sudden.. maybe models are off on the initial strength of the ridging


http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/a ... 2java.html


According to the NHC the subtropical ridge north of it is weakening.


they said the models say its going to weaken...
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#3790 Postby knotimpaired » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:45 pm

TreasureIslandFLGal wrote:Purchased 3 more cases of water today and am about to take the laundry out of the machines downstairs. Just making sure all is prepped in the event of any extended periods with no electricity. ;)
I learned that lesson years ago in NC when Fran left me with no electricity or water (electric pump) for 28 days!
Plus, as soon as this area gets into a cone, the stores go nutso crazy!
plus, Winn Dixie has cases of water 3 for $10 right now too in FL as a coincidence. ;)


This is probably off topic but you should consider hard wiring your house. No extension cords but if you get a gen at 5500 it will hold the load of everything. Minus a elec dryer. But we have every thing we had in the states and a 5500 watt Gen takes care of it.

I suggest having at least 25 gals of fuel as backup.
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#3791 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:45 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
gatorcane wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:actually seems to me the ridging just build back in over the last 24 hours.. maybe that explains the rapid west motion all of a sudden.. maybe models are off on the initial strength of the ridging


http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/a ... 2java.html


According to the NHC the subtropical ridge north of it is weakening.


they said the models say its going to weaken...


That is not how I read it. Check out the beginning of the second paragraph of the discussion
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#3792 Postby shaggy » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:47 pm

CronkPSU wrote:
shaggy wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Did the new data get into the 00z bam's ?



Ummm not sure what I am seeing here but this says they canceled the g-IV flight?

2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY:
A. CONTINUE 6-HRLY FIXES IF SYSTEM REMAINS A THREAT.
B. A G-IV MISSION FOR 04/0000Z

3. REMARK: G-IV MISSION FOR 02/0000Z CANCELED AT 01/1400Z.



pffft....nothing to see here, no possible hurricane looking at US landfall...maybe that flight was on the deficit bill?


Dunno but I bet they are kicking themselves for doing that now. That would have been the data used for the 12z run tomorrow I presume?
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#3793 Postby Gustywind » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:48 pm

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#3794 Postby Rgv20 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:48 pm

Looking at the current steering layer and the usually happy ridging UKMET I think Emily should continue due west at least until 67-66 west.
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#3795 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:49 pm

gatorcane wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
gatorcane wrote:
According to the NHC the subtropical ridge north of it is weakening.


they said the models say its going to weaken...


That is not how I read it. Check out the beginning of the second paragraph of the discussion



well its says both... can be for sure but it read to me that they are going off the models saying its weakening.. ?? everything im looking at from past to present says its not.... ??? it however might start too ... but how far south of the track will she go before that happens .??
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#3796 Postby boca » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:50 pm

I clipped what you two were discussing out of the discussion.

THE GLOBAL MODELS ARE IN
GENERALLY GOOD AGREEMENT SHOWING THIS RIDGE WEAKENING OVER THE NEXT
COUPLE OF DAYS AS A MID-LEVEL TROUGH DIGS SOUTHWARD OVER THE
WESTERN ATLANTIC. THIS SHOULD ALLOW EMILY TO TURN
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AND SLOW DOWN A LITTLE IN THE FIRST 48 HOURS
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#3797 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:51 pm

boca wrote:I clipped what you two were discussing out of the discussion.

THE GLOBAL MODELS ARE IN
GENERALLY GOOD AGREEMENT SHOWING THIS RIDGE WEAKENING OVER THE NEXT
COUPLE OF DAYS AS A MID-LEVEL TROUGH DIGS SOUTHWARD OVER THE
WESTERN ATLANTIC. THIS SHOULD ALLOW EMILY TO TURN
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AND SLOW DOWN A LITTLE IN THE FIRST 48 HOURS


Thank you..
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3798 Postby knotimpaired » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:52 pm

We have a elongated band that looks as if it is coming our way.

Can anyone confirm this?
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#3799 Postby boca » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:52 pm

THE GLOBAL MODELS ARE IN
GENERALLY GOOD AGREEMENT SHOWING THIS RIDGE WEAKENING OVER THE NEXT
COUPLE OF DAYS AS A MID-LEVEL TROUGH DIGS SOUTHWARD OVER THE
WESTERN ATLANTIC. THIS SHOULD ALLOW EMILY TO TURN
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AND SLOW DOWN A LITTLE IN THE FIRST 48 HOURS

Out of the discussion.
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#3800 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:54 pm

boca wrote:THE GLOBAL MODELS ARE IN
GENERALLY GOOD AGREEMENT SHOWING THIS RIDGE WEAKENING OVER THE NEXT
COUPLE OF DAYS AS A MID-LEVEL TROUGH DIGS SOUTHWARD OVER THE
WESTERN ATLANTIC. THIS SHOULD ALLOW EMILY TO TURN
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AND SLOW DOWN A LITTLE IN THE FIRST 48 HOURS

Out of the discussion.


Check out the sentence before in the disco though not in the snippet above. That confirms it is weakening right now.
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