ATL: IRENE - Remnants - Discussion

[littlevince]

[wjs3]

ok...riddle me this...front coming down from the North and west of us here in central florida....so of course which way are the afternoon sea breezes coming from the East...say what???

Sorry--and no sarcasm intended here at all...but what's the riddle? That makes perfect sense, I think.

[ozonepete]

Well looks like she made the turn, looking on target for the 11pm point.

Moronic question: What does that mean for Southeastern VA?

Not a moronic question at all. That's what we're all here for. Better get your preparations done. This means they will probably not adjust the forecast track much and SE VA will be very close to the center of a strong hurricane. Good luck and stick with us here.

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[chris_fit]

ok...riddle me this...front coming down from the North and west of us here in central florida....so of course which way are the afternoon sea breezes coming from the East...say what???

Sorry--and no sarcasm intended here at all...but what's the riddle? That makes perfect sense, I think.

No it doesn't... normally when there is a front approaching... storms move from the W to E across the state. Here we had a surge of I don't know what push South East off the Ocean into the state... really weird. I'm currently under a Severe TStorm warning too, crazy!

[clfenwi]

URNT12 KNHC 231848
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL092011
A. 23/18:28:20Z
B. 20 deg 44 min N
071 deg 14 min W
C. 700 mb 2883 m
D. 66 kt
E. 296 deg 13 nm
F. 010 deg 65 kt
G. 296 deg 15 nm
H. 976 mb
I. 11 C / 3106 m
J. 16 C / 3114 m
K. 9 C / NA
L. CLOSED
M. E06/30/20
N. 12345 / 7
O. 0.02 / 2 nm
P. AF302 0809A IRENE OB 23
MAX OUTBOUND AND MAX FL WIND 74 KT SE QUAD 18:32:00Z
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[RL3AO]

L. CLOSED
M. E06/30/20

Eyewall is closed.

[clfenwi]

URNT15 KNHC 231849
AF302 0809A IRENE HDOB 36 20110823
183900 2019N 07043W 6914 03139 9987 +064 //// 227058 059 047 011 01
183930 2019N 07043W 6914 03139 9979 +077 //// 227057 058 047 005 01
184000 2018N 07040W 6916 03141 9988 +068 //// 229058 059 051 011 01
184030 2017N 07038W 6914 03143 //// +057 //// 231058 058 052 016 01
184100 2016N 07037W 6896 03170 //// +062 //// 218060 061 045 020 05
184130 2015N 07035W 6915 03147 //// +062 //// 220058 059 043 012 01
184200 2014N 07033W 6916 03146 //// +065 //// 219054 055 040 004 01
184230 2014N 07033W 6916 03146 //// +074 //// 219056 056 039 003 01
184300 2012N 07030W 6917 03151 9983 +083 //// 219053 054 037 001 01
184330 2011N 07029W 6913 03158 9980 +089 +087 219053 054 037 001 00
184400 2010N 07027W 6917 03155 9980 +092 +090 219052 053 037 001 00
184430 2009N 07025W 6916 03160 9977 +095 +084 219047 048 036 001 00
184500 2008N 07024W 6911 03169 9990 +089 //// 216047 048 035 000 01
184530 2007N 07022W 6913 03167 9996 +085 //// 217046 046 037 000 01
184600 2006N 07020W 6916 03166 0000 +083 //// 219045 046 037 000 01
184630 2005N 07019W 6917 03165 0003 +082 //// 220046 047 036 000 01
184700 2004N 07017W 6914 03170 0003 +084 //// 221043 044 037 000 01
184730 2003N 07015W 6913 03172 0002 +085 //// 220042 043 039 000 01
184800 2002N 07014W 6918 03168 0004 +086 //// 217042 043 041 001 01
184830 2001N 07012W 6918 03165 0002 +086 //// 216038 039 041 001 05

[Aric Dunn]

ok...riddle me this...front coming down from the North and west of us here in central florida....so of course which way are the afternoon sea breezes coming from the East...say what???

Sorry--and no sarcasm intended here at all...but what's the riddle? That makes perfect sense, I think.

think he meant sea breeze thunderstorms. typical florida pattern is west to east motion. and with a trough should be sw to NE.. today that moving to the west or wsw.. indicating possible ridging.. filling in

[ColinDelia]

L. CLOSED
M. E06/30/20

Eyewall is closed.

Definitely becoming easier to see the eye on vis too

[MGC]

Eye is starting to clear out....don't see the shear the NHC is talking about. Starting to feel the long wave over the EC....

Was talking with my Daughter-in-law about Irene and that it is forecast to hit them in the Norfolk area when the earthquake hit. She said it was rocking and rolling.

[ozonepete]

ok...riddle me this...front coming down from the North and west of us here in central florida....so of course which way are the afternoon sea breezes coming from the East...say what???

Sorry--and no sarcasm intended here at all...but what's the riddle? That makes perfect sense, I think.

think he meant sea breeze thunderstorms. typical florida pattern is west to east motion. and with a trough should be sw to NE.. today that moving to the west or wsw.. indicating possible ridging.. filling in

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So he meant sea breeze storms moving east, not sea breeze. The sea breeze on the Atlantic side can only come with an easterly component, obviously.

[Aric Dunn]

she barely moved this last hour or so.. latest VDM show very close to previous.

[littlevince]

[wjs3]

ok...riddle me this...front coming down from the North and west of us here in central florida....so of course which way are the afternoon sea breezes coming from the East...say what???

Sorry--and no sarcasm intended here at all...but what's the riddle? That makes perfect sense, I think.

No it doesn't... normally when there is a front approaching... storms move from the W to E across the state. Here we had a surge of I don't know what push South East off the Ocean into the state... really weird. I'm currently under a Severe TStorm warning too, crazy!

Sure, if the front is close enough that the mean flow in the atmosphere is W to E then storms move that way (If a front is not close enough, then normal pop up storms can move E to W, S to N, whatever the mean flow is). But that's not the point of the OP. He said that afternoon sea breezes are coming from the East. If you live in Florida, especially toward the east cost, that's really the only direction a sea breeze CAN come from, right?

I'm sorry. You really lost me here. How did a set of storms push South east off the ocean and into the state? You mean south west? Or are you on the west coast of Fla and do you mean the Gulf, not the Ocean?

Anyway, way off topic. Never mind.

[tolakram]

URNT12 KNHC 231848
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL092011
A. 23/18:28:20Z
B. 20 deg 44 min N
071 deg 14 min W
C. 700 mb 2883 m
D. 66 kt
E. 296 deg 13 nm
F. 010 deg 65 kt
G. 296 deg 15 nm
H. 976 mb
I. 11 C / 3106 m
J. 16 C / 3114 m
K. 9 C / NA
L. CLOSED
M. E06/30/20
N. 12345 / 7
O. 0.02 / 2 nm
P. AF302 0809A IRENE OB 23
MAX OUTBOUND AND MAX FL WIND 74 KT SE QUAD 18:32:00Z
;

Still strengthening. Where are those ... looks to be weakening ... posters?

[TheBurn]

18:15 VIS - Fanning out...

[wjs3]

ok...riddle me this...front coming down from the North and west of us here in central florida....so of course which way are the afternoon sea breezes coming from the East...say what???
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So he meant sea breeze storms moving east, not sea breeze. The sea breeze on the Atlantic side can only come with an easterly component, obviously.

[/quote]


ohhhhhh....I get it now! (sorry, I think I butchered the quote)

[ozonepete]

BTW, those sea breeze storms over Melbourne and vicinity were formed on outflow boundaries that ejected southwestward from the offshore thunderstorm cluster off of GA and north FL. You can see it clearly on the visible. Now back to topic...

[tolakram]

live loop: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... map=latlon

Eye is still forming but visibly and confirmed with recon it appears a more NW path has started.

[maxx9512]

ok...riddle me this...front coming down from the North and west of us here in central florida....so of course which way are the afternoon sea breezes coming from the East...say what???

I was wondering about that. I saw T-storms off Daytona on Weather Channel moving south-sw. I thought it would be away from coast like eastward. Correct me if I'm wrong here.