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Re: ATL: Ex INVEST 90L - Discussion

#681 Postby ROCK » Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:46 pm

wind shear on the decrease for now....

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/w ... oom=&time=
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Re: ATL: Ex INVEST 90L - Discussion

#682 Postby GCANE » Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:47 pm

Its getting to be about the right time of day to fire off some convection from the islands.
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Re: ATL: Ex INVEST 90L - Discussion

#683 Postby GCANE » Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:48 pm

ROCK wrote:wind shear on the decrease for now....

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/w ... oom=&time=



Holding up pretty good all day long.
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#684 Postby HurricaneBrain » Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:49 pm

What does the NHC see? Should be at least 20% with the conditions ahead of it. It's firing up some convection too.
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#685 Postby Stormcenter » Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:49 pm

I've never been a fan of this "percentages" thing the NHC came out with several years back. It's good for rain chances but not tropical systems. I remember last year or year before there was one system that went from 10% to 50% and then 0% in less then a day. How can this be? Anyway why bother mentioning it if it's 0%. I mean it's almost like they (NHC) want to leave a slight crack of a chance open just in case they are wrong. JMHO
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#686 Postby HurricaneBrain » Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:52 pm

Stormcenter wrote:I've never been a fan of this "percentages" thing the NHC came out with several years back. It's good for rain chances but not tropical systems. I remember last year or year before there was one system that went from 10% to 50% and then 0% in less then a day. How can this be? Anyway why bother mentioning it if it's 0%. I mean it's almost like they (NHC) what to leave a slight crack of a chance open just in case they are wrong. JMHO

Nailed it.
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#687 Postby HurricaneBrain » Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:54 pm

And that was 95L on the Louisiana coastline that had the massive percentage rise/drop.
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#688 Postby KWT » Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:57 pm

Hmmm ECM does sort of hint that it will strengthen, you never know we may get one of those last gasp depressions form in the W.Gulf, I think maybe a little like Td2 (I think it was TD2??) from last year...

Does look like its not completely done like the NHC are suggesting with that 0%...but I dare say they will be raising it again some point soon if convection keeps up.
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#689 Postby plasticup » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:09 pm

Stormcenter wrote:I've never been a fan of this "percentages" thing the NHC came out with several years back. It's good for rain chances but not tropical systems. I remember last year or year before there was one system that went from 10% to 50% and then 0% in less then a day. How can this be? Anyway why bother mentioning it if it's 0%. I mean it's almost like they (NHC) what to leave a slight crack of a chance open just in case they are wrong. JMHO

Because it is 0% in the next 48 hours. If they bothered to mention it, they usually expect that percentage to increase beyond 48 hours.
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#690 Postby fogbreath » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:11 pm

Stormcenter wrote:I've never been a fan of this "percentages" thing the NHC came out with several years back. It's good for rain chances but not tropical systems. I remember last year or year before there was one system that went from 10% to 50% and then 0% in less then a day. How can this be? Anyway why bother mentioning it if it's 0%. I mean it's almost like they (NHC) what to leave a slight crack of a chance open just in case they are wrong. JMHO


Reminds me of the line in the movie "The Naked Gun" - "He's got a 50/50 chance of living, though there's only a 10 percent chance of that."

As far as 90L, I'm still new at this, so I'm not going to even venture a guesstimate on this one coming back to something more viable.
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#691 Postby SouthDadeFish » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:13 pm

I'm seeing hints of a possible LLC developing just NW of extreme Western Jamaica. Anyone else seeing this?
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Re: ATL: Ex INVEST 90L - Discussion

#692 Postby Nikki » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:13 pm

If ex 90L/90L can bring some much needed rain to Texas without all the hoopla a storm can bring, we will take it! :D
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#693 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:21 pm

SouthDadeFish wrote:I'm seeing hints of a possible LLC developing just NW of extreme Western Jamaica. Anyone else seeing this?


No, just a wave. There is no surface or lower level circulation.
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Re: ATL: Ex INVEST 90L - Discussion

#694 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:28 pm

Definitely seeing spin just SW of Jamaica

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Re: ATL: Ex INVEST 90L - Discussion

#695 Postby SouthFLTropics » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:29 pm

"So you're telling me there's a chance!!!" LMAO!!!

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#696 Postby SouthDadeFish » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:29 pm

It's hard to tell because the upper level clouds are getting blown off to the east, which tricks the eye to think there are westerly winds...
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#697 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:31 pm

Like before... the thing that is needed is some organized convection. without it nothing will become of this. I do see at the least a more defined curvature the low level wind field so it can just sustain some convection long enough to get a good LLC then something may happen
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#698 Postby SouthDadeFish » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:33 pm

Nonetheless, I think almost everyone here agrees this shouldn't be 0%... If the trend continues I would guess back up to 10% at 8pm...
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Re: ATL: Ex INVEST 90L - Discussion

#699 Postby GCANE » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:35 pm

Kingston has been holding NW winds for about the last 2 hrs.

http://www.intellicast.com/Local/Observ ... n=JMXX0002
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Re: ATL: Ex INVEST 90L - Discussion

#700 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:36 pm

GCANE wrote:Kingston has been holding NW winds for about the last 2 hrs.

http://www.intellicast.com/Local/Observ ... n=JMXX0002


yeah have to watch out with reports from mountainous islands. The winds are highly variable
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