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#7761 Postby NDG » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:55 am

12z models, much closer to SE FL.

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Re: ATL: EMILY - Remnants - Discussion

#7762 Postby stormreader » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:55 am

Question: The NHC does have the red shading to include the area south of eastern Cuba along with the Bahamas to the north. If development would occur there what would it mean in terms of track and forecast movement?? Would it still mean that we could expect the system to eventually move north across Cuba with a coming weakness pulling it up, or could we expect a more westerly component?
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#7763 Postby stormreader » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:58 am

Okay I guess I misunderstood you NDG. I thought you were implying that the south coast of Cuba (surface trough) had the greatest potential for development. But no?? You also think that in the coming day or so, it will be the seas of north of Cuba where we can expect development??
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Re: ATL: Ex EMILY - Models

#7764 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:59 am

blp wrote:
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blp wrote:If it means anything the GFS is bringing Emily back starting at 30hr on the 18z.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/carib/gfs/18/images/gfs_ten_030l.gif



My friend as much as I consider you a very good friend give it up. I am with you but it's just not going to happen.



Yea, but there is nothing else out there at the moment. It is hard to let go sometimes especially after reading some 200+ pages of posts.



I know that why I am as bad as you are still reading all these post, and even still wondering just maybe it might happen.
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Remnants - Discussion

#7765 Postby wxman57 » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:00 am

Moderate shear + no low-level convergence = no redevelopment.

I can see a bit of a swirl up around 22.5N/77W, but all storms have been ripped away well to the east. No sign of the shear letting up.
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#7766 Postby stormreader » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:03 am

wxman57 wrote:Moderate shear + no low-level convergence = no redevelopment.

I can see a bit of a swirl up around 22.5N/77W, but all storms have been ripped away well to the east. No sign of the shear letting up.


Wxman--what do you make of the 60% chance for redevelopment given by the NHC?
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#7767 Postby NDG » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:06 am

The more I look at that area the more I think they placed the best track position in the middle of two potential areas for cyclogenesis, I think just a little east has the best potential, I see some convergence trying to get going just SW of Crooked & Acklins Islands in the Bahamas near 22 N & 76 W.
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#7768 Postby NDG » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:09 am

CIMSS agrees with me.

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Re: ATL: EMILY - Remnants - Discussion

#7769 Postby wxman57 » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:11 am

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wxman57 wrote:Moderate shear + no low-level convergence = no redevelopment.

I can see a bit of a swirl up around 22.5N/77W, but all storms have been ripped away well to the east. No sign of the shear letting up.


Wxman--what do you make of the 60% chance for redevelopment given by the NHC?


Part Stacey Stewart's higher estimate from last evening, part Beven and Avila keeping continuity in subsequent shifts, and part the NHC's thinking that it's not a bad idea for folks in the Bahamas & Florida to continue to keep an eye on it. I don't think they really think that any redevelopment is imminent.
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Remnants - Discussion

#7770 Postby Jevo » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:22 am

Nothing like a blob watch to make a Friday at work go by faster....

What a different thread this would be if the blob was brand new and there was a 60% on it. This place would be going Ape..
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Remnants - Discussion

#7771 Postby xironman » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:44 am

It is 48 hours on that 60%, tomorrow the conditions could be better. That is when the GFS does something with it.
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Remnants - Discussion

#7772 Postby mutley » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:50 am

Jevo wrote:Nothing like a blob watch to make a Friday at work go by faster....

What a different thread this would be if the blob was brand new and there was a 60% on it. This place would be going Ape..


Blob watching mode is engaged. :wink:
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Remnants - Discussion

#7773 Postby ozonepete » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:58 am

This looks the most likely spot to me. And it matches the convergence area on the CIMSS chart someone posted recently.


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#7774 Postby HurricaneBelle » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:58 am

Shouldn't this still be on the Storm2K map? It's the equivalent of an invest, since it's being outlooked and the tropical models are still running for it.
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Remnants - Discussion

#7775 Postby ozonepete » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:04 am

Here's the other area where there is clearly rotation going on.

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#7776 Postby sandyb » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:04 am

NDG wrote:They are going to be starting the tropical models closer to the surface trough than by the mid level vorticity. It will interesting.

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Where can I find this information? I would like to read up on it
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Remnants - Discussion

#7777 Postby GCANE » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:06 am

They have the bulls-eye at ~22.4N 77.0W


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#7778 Postby artist » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:06 am

HurricaneBelle wrote:Shouldn't this still be on the Storm2K map? It's the equivalent of an invest, since it's being outlooked and the tropical models are still running for it.

my understanding is the map is automatically updated by NHC data, in other words s2k doesn't really do it themselves.
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Remnants - Discussion

#7779 Postby amawea » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:06 am

I agree with you too NDG: looks like ozonepete does too. 8-)
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Remnants - Discussion

#7780 Postby flashflood » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:10 am

Jevo wrote:Nothing like a blob watch to make a Friday at work go by faster....

What a different thread this would be if the blob was brand new and there was a 60% on it. This place would be going Ape..


That's for sure on both parts :)

Would be nice if a blob came into radar range late this afternoon to watch as well. There seems to be dry air to the NW of the area of slight turning N. of Cuba, however I see some convection here and there in throughout that area so it not too dry to support a blob for now.
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