ATL: IRENE - Remnants - Discussion

[jinftl]

Jose and 92L are now getting more posts than Irene...it ain't over till it's over...and it's just about over for our girl Irene - she became a hurricane when the 8 storms before her couldn't...she hit the bahamas as a major hurricane....and put 65 million+ people in the mid-atlantic and northeast into hurricane mode. She has knocked out power to more than 4 million people. Unfortunately she did damage and caused loss of life too.

She made a splash, one could say, and reminded us that Mother Nature is calling the shots and she will write the story that is the rest of this season.

[Chacor]

Seawater surged into flood-prone areas of New York on Sunday as Tropical Storm Irene hit the city, downgraded from a hurricane but still bringing fierce winds and rain.

Some 370,000 people were ordered to evacuate and streets are eerily quiet, a BBC correspondent says.

At least 11 deaths have been linked the powerful storm.

Irene has already destroyed buildings in North Carolina and Virginia, and left millions without power.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14698151

[Stephanie]

Jose and 92L are now getting more posts than Irene...it ain't over till it's over...and it's just about over for our girl Irene - she became a hurricane when the 8 storms before her couldn't...she hit the bahamas as a major hurricane....and put 65 million+ people in the mid-atlantic and northeast into hurricane mode. She has knocked out power to more than 4 million people. Unfortunately she did damage and caused loss of life too.

She made a splash, one could say, and reminded us that Mother Nature is calling the shots and she will write the story that is the rest of this season.

She made people that have not experienced a hurricane AWARE. I think that's the one good thing about Irene. I just hope it's not a precursor to something worse.

[Chacor]

FEMA/DHS/NHC press conference ongoing. Bill Read continues to warn of the serious threat of river flooding.

[Chris_in_Tampa]

[hurr123]

The question to everyone is does Irene warrant a retirement of her name? If it does get retired, it will be because of the large area it affected and because of damage caused it the Bahamas. I personally say NO Retirement, based on limited damaged in NC where it first struck. Damage looked more like Low-End Cat. 1; however, flooding that may occurr during the next few days could change results. I am interested to hear other comments on Retirement!!

[jinftl]

Pretty amazing that Rhode Island seems to have hit the jackpot with wind speeds....the band that moved through contained the closest thing to hurricane conditions....this was the band that was 120 miles east of the center of the storm...


PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
SPOTTER REPORTS
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAUNTON MA
1145 AM EDT SUN AUG 28 2011


***********************PEAK WIND GUST***********************
RHODE ISLAND
...BRISTOL COUNTY...
BARRINGTON 82mph 936 AM 8/28 HAM RADIO

...KENT COUNTY...
CONIMICUT 78mph 930 AM 8/28 CONIMICUT POINT


***********************SUSTAINED WIND***********************
RHODE ISLAND
...KENT COUNTY...
2 NNW WARWICK 64mph 639 AM 8/28 T.F. GREEN ARPT

[cycloneye]

The question to everyone is does Irene warrant a retirement of her name? If it does get retired, it will be because of the large area it affected and because of damage caused it the Bahamas. I personally say NO Retirement, based on limited damaged in NC where it first struck. Damage looked more like Low-End Cat. 1; however, flooding that may occurr during the next few days could change results. I am interested to hear other comments on Retirement!!

Puerto Rico had around $500 millon of damage with one death,but I dont think that will be enough for the commitee to decide on retirement.

[HurrMark]

I am glad the NHC downgraded it at landfall in NYC...I think a lot of New Yorkers would have thought that this was a walk in the park compared to the "hype" and they would be more complacent in the future. This could have been a whole lot worse...perhaps 10-15 mph an hour more, and the situation would have been a whole lot different. The timing and angle of motion were nearly perfect for a devastating storm, but the fact that it wasn't as strong as feared was a complete saving grace. This is a very damaging storm, and I don't want to downplay what has happened so far, but had Irene not struggled off Florida like it did and at least maintained major hurricane status as it approached the Carolinas, I think we would have been dealing with an outcome that would have been a whole lot different.

[Ptarmigan]

She made people that have not experienced a hurricane AWARE. I think that's the one good thing about Irene. I just hope it's not a precursor to something worse.

That's good thing. People are less complacent.

[jinftl]

Well for all those who have been saying for years that the Jersey Shore and NYC are 'overdue' for a hurricane....the return period for another storm to effect this region isn't for 18-20 years (for Cat 1 coming within 50 miles of the breakpoints shown above)!!!

[Ptarmigan]

I am glad the NHC downgraded it at landfall in NYC...I think a lot of New Yorkers would have thought that this was a walk in the park compared to the "hype" and they would be more complacent in the future. This could have been a whole lot worse...perhaps 10-15 mph an hour more, and the situation would have been a whole lot different. The timing and angle of motion were nearly perfect for a devastating storm, but the fact that it wasn't as strong as feared was a complete saving grace. This is a very damaging storm, and I don't want to downplay what has happened so far, but had Irene not struggled off Florida like it did and at least maintained major hurricane status as it approached the Carolinas, I think we would have been dealing with an outcome that would have been a whole lot different.

Even a tropical storm can be bad too. Case in point, Allison and Alberto. At least, it was not as bad as expected. I still don't think they dodged a bullet. They were hit by a weaker bullet.

[Ptarmigan]

Visible loop: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... umframes=5

Irene and little brother Jose

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/7875/ztemp.jpg

Hi Jose. You are mighty small!

[Ptarmigan]

Irene's size
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MI ... 1451.shtml

Irene (As of 8/28/2011 1500 UTC)
Tropical Storm 172.5 nm

Ike
Best Track (9/13/2008 0600 UTC)
Hurricane 75 nm
Tropical Storm 168.75 nm

Advisory (9/13/2008 0300 UTC)
Hurricane 82.5 nm
Tropical Storm 190 nm

Katrina
Best Track (8/29/2005 1200 UTC)
Hurricane 75 nm
Tropical Storm 162.5 nm

Advisory (8/29/2005 1500 UTC)
Hurricane 85 nm
Tropical Storm 162.5 nm

Gilbert
Best Track (9/16/1988 1200 UTC)
Hurricane 112.5 nm
Tropical Storm 225 nm

Irene has grown in tropical storm force wind extent.

[HurrMark]

I am glad the NHC downgraded it at landfall in NYC...I think a lot of New Yorkers would have thought that this was a walk in the park compared to the "hype" and they would be more complacent in the future. This could have been a whole lot worse...perhaps 10-15 mph an hour more, and the situation would have been a whole lot different. The timing and angle of motion were nearly perfect for a devastating storm, but the fact that it wasn't as strong as feared was a complete saving grace. This is a very damaging storm, and I don't want to downplay what has happened so far, but had Irene not struggled off Florida like it did and at least maintained major hurricane status as it approached the Carolinas, I think we would have been dealing with an outcome that would have been a whole lot different.

Even a tropical storm can be bad too. Case in point, Allison and Alberto. At least, it was not as bad as expected. I still don't think they dodged a bullet. They were hit by a weaker bullet.

I don't think they dodged a bullet either...the flooding over NJ and the Hudson Valley will be tremendous. But in terms of the financial capital of the world...and the disruptions and damage this could have caused...which could have ultimately affected the economy as a whole, the effects to the infrastructure were so much less than expected, and NYC (and America, as a whole), can breathe a little sigh of relief on that end.

[Ptarmigan]

I don't think they dodged a bullet either...the flooding over NJ and the Hudson Valley will be tremendous. But in terms of the financial capital of the world...and the disruptions and damage this could have caused...which could have ultimately affected the economy as a whole, the effects to the infrastructure were so much less than expected, and NYC (and America, as a whole), can breathe a little sigh of relief on that end.

I agree with that. If Irene was stronger, New York and America would be plunged deeper into recession.

[Annie Oakley]

I have to say, that after helping with recon for my first time, I have a HUGE appreciation for the ones whose names I see consistently over and over each storm! And I will commit to helping again. Dave, a special thanks to you as a great leader and teacher for us novices. You are patient and you inspire confidence.

Storm2k thanks for being here.

[CrazyC83]

Irene looks like a huge subtropical storm now. It is non-frontal but not exactly tropical-looking.

[Stephanie]

I am glad the NHC downgraded it at landfall in NYC...I think a lot of New Yorkers would have thought that this was a walk in the park compared to the "hype" and they would be more complacent in the future. This could have been a whole lot worse...perhaps 10-15 mph an hour more, and the situation would have been a whole lot different. The timing and angle of motion were nearly perfect for a devastating storm, but the fact that it wasn't as strong as feared was a complete saving grace. This is a very damaging storm, and I don't want to downplay what has happened so far, but had Irene not struggled off Florida like it did and at least maintained major hurricane status as it approached the Carolinas, I think we would have been dealing with an outcome that would have been a whole lot different.

Even a tropical storm can be bad too. Case in point, Allison and Alberto. At least, it was not as bad as expected. I still don't think they dodged a bullet. They were hit by a weaker bullet.

I don't think they dodged a bullet either...the flooding over NJ and the Hudson Valley will be tremendous. But in terms of the financial capital of the world...and the disruptions and damage this could have caused...which could have ultimately affected the economy as a whole, the effects to the infrastructure were so much less than expected, and NYC (and America, as a whole), can breathe a little sigh of relief on that end.

I agree 100%.

[Hogweed]

Flood sirens going off at Gilboa Dam/Schoharie area NY. Residents urged to evacuate the flood zone immediately.

TYPE B EMERGENCY DECLARED - "Possibility of dam failure has increased"